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	<title>Comments on: Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed&#039;s Efforts to Lower  the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Powerless to Stop the Financial Meltdown</title>
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		<title>By: For the U.S. Economy in the New Year, the Pain Will Precede the Promise</title>
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		<dc:creator>For the U.S. Economy in the New Year, the Pain Will Precede the Promise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are some signs of a thaw, but not anytime soon. The U.S. Federal Reserve&#8217;s lowering of the Fed Funds target rate to 1.0%, and coordinated rate reductions by the Bank of England and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fears of Mortgage Rate Re-Sets May Fuel LIBOR Manipulation and Mask Deeper Banking System Problems</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fears of Mortgage Rate Re-Sets May Fuel LIBOR Manipulation and Mask Deeper Banking System Problems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Money Morning Special Investigation of the U.S. Credit Crisis (Part VII):Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed’s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Powerless.... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: As the Credit Crisis Deepens, There Are Still Many More Questions Than Answers</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2525</link>
		<dc:creator>As the Credit Crisis Deepens, There Are Still Many More Questions Than Answers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] these moves will work. [Check out Money Morning&#8217;s special investigative report on the Federal Funds target rate, which includes insights on why this strategy may not work &#8211; and could actually damage the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: EdwinE</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2524</link>
		<dc:creator>EdwinE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To The Rescue&quot;...
I just like to know two thing!
Would our government be smart enough to put a financial  bailout package to rescue our national small businesses?
With the same principles and energy they have spent to rescue Ford, Chrysler, GM, AIG among others.
or...
Would our government be smart enough to put a financial bailout package to rescue our tax payers families?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"To The Rescue"&#8230;<br />
I just like to know two thing!<br />
Would our government be smart enough to put a financial  bailout package to rescue our national small businesses?<br />
With the same principles and energy they have spent to rescue Ford, Chrysler, GM, AIG among others.<br />
or&#8230;<br />
Would our government be smart enough to put a financial bailout package to rescue our tax payers families?</p>
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		<title>By: How U.S. Missteps Triggered a Spiral of Worldwide Margin Calls and Deepened the Financial Crisis &#124; triggereventstrategist.com</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2522</link>
		<dc:creator>How U.S. Missteps Triggered a Spiral of Worldwide Margin Calls and Deepened the Financial Crisis &#124; triggereventstrategist.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] healthy banks whose cost of funds to make new loans should come directly from the Treasury at the Federal Funds rate. This will allow banks that write new loans to make them cheap and still have good profit margins. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: For the U.S. Economy in the New Year, the Pain Will Precede the Promise &#124; triggereventstrategist.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>For the U.S. Economy in the New Year, the Pain Will Precede the Promise &#124; triggereventstrategist.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are some signs of a thaw, but not anytime soon. The U.S. Federal Reserve&#8217;s lowering of the Fed Funds target rate to 1.0%, and coordinated rate reductions by the Bank of England and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fed lost control of the Federal Funds Rate. &#171; American Armageddon</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed lost control of the Federal Funds Rate. &#171; American Armageddon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed’s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Power&amp;#82... (Money Morning, 10/10/08) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: For the U.S. Economy in the New Year, the Pain Will Precede the Promise</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2519</link>
		<dc:creator>For the U.S. Economy in the New Year, the Pain Will Precede the Promise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are some signs of a thaw, but not anytime soon. The U.S. Federal Reserve&#8217;s lowering of the Fed Funds target rate to 1.0%, and coordinated rate reductions by the Bank of England and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jutia Group - Market Jitters &#38; Political Critters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jutia Group - Market Jitters &#38; Political Critters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are some signs of a thaw, but not anytime soon. The U.S. Federal Reserve&#8217;s lowering of the Fed Funds target rate to 1.0%, and coordinated rate reductions by the Bank of England and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Uncertainty Escalates as Tomorrow&#8217;s Presidential Election Looms</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2518</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncertainty Escalates as Tomorrow&#8217;s Presidential Election Looms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conditions seem worse today than when that rate touched this level – in 2003.  Others feel that such moves have become more symbolic than substantive, and believe the Fed needs to halt future actions to let the lower rates work their ways through [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conditions seem worse today than when that rate touched this level – in 2003.  Others feel that such moves have become more symbolic than substantive, and believe the Fed needs to halt future actions to let the lower rates work their ways through [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Credit Crisis Expert Says Proposed Plan to Bail Out Delinquent Homeowners May Face Too Many Problems to Succeed</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2517</link>
		<dc:creator>Credit Crisis Expert Says Proposed Plan to Bail Out Delinquent Homeowners May Face Too Many Problems to Succeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Money Morning Special Investigation of the U.S. Credit Crisis (Part VII): Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed&#8217;s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Power.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Money Morning Special Investigation of the U.S. Credit Crisis (Part VII): Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed&rsquo;s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Power&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fears of Mortgage Rate Re-Sets May Fuel LIBOR Manipulation and Mask Deeper Banking System Problems</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2516</link>
		<dc:creator>Fears of Mortgage Rate Re-Sets May Fuel LIBOR Manipulation and Mask Deeper Banking System Problems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Money Morning Special Investigation of the U.S. Credit Crisis (Part VII): Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed&#8217;s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Power.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Money Morning Special Investigation of the U.S. Credit Crisis (Part VII): Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed&rsquo;s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Power&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How U.S. Missteps Triggered a Spiral of Worldwide Margin Calls and Deepened the Financial Crisis</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2515</link>
		<dc:creator>How U.S. Missteps Triggered a Spiral of Worldwide Margin Calls and Deepened the Financial Crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] healthy banks whose cost of funds to make new loans should come directly from the Treasury at the Federal Funds rate. This will allow banks that write new loans to make them cheap and still have good profit margins. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] healthy banks whose cost of funds to make new loans should come directly from the Treasury at the Federal Funds rate. This will allow banks that write new loans to make them cheap and still have good profit margins. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LIBOR Drops But Short-Term Credit Markets Remain Tight</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2514</link>
		<dc:creator>LIBOR Drops But Short-Term Credit Markets Remain Tight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to what most people think, the Fed Funds rate is a &#8216;target;&#8217; it is not an absolute number that anyone actually has to follow,&#8221; Money Morning Contributing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to what most people think, the Fed Funds rate is a &lsquo;target;&rsquo; it is not an absolute number that anyone actually has to follow,&rdquo; Money Morning Contributing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Those frozen money markets</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2504</link>
		<dc:creator>Those frozen money markets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed&#8217;s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Power... By Shah Gilani Contributing Editor Money Morning [...]</description>
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		<title>By: As the Credit Crisis Deepens, There Are Still Many More Questions Than Answers &#124; Jutia Group</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2503</link>
		<dc:creator>As the Credit Crisis Deepens, There Are Still Many More Questions Than Answers &#124; Jutia Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] these moves will work. [Check out Money Morning&#8217;s special investigative report on the Federal Funds target rate, which includes insights on why this strategy may not work &#8211; and could actually damage the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: J.Y.F. Lau</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Y.F. Lau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilani&#039;s analyses are excellent. Just one technical point. The credit problem of the banks is actually worse than what Gilani has described due to the so-called credit multiplfier effect as described by Keynes. That is, commercial banks do not just lend money that is deposited or borrowed. Commercial banks actually &quot;create&quot; money by lending. This is the endogenous theory of money.

For your reference, form Financial &amp; Investment Dictionary:

Deposit multiplier or credit multiplier: magnifies small changes in bank deposits into changes in the amount of outstanding credit and the money supply. For example, a bank receives a deposit of $100,000, and the Reserve Requirement is 20%. The bank is thus required to keep $20,000 in the form of reserves. The remaining $80,000 becomes a loan, which is deposited in the borrower&#039;s bank. When the borrower&#039;s bank sets aside the $16,000 required reserve out of the $80,000, $64,000 is available for another loan and another deposit, and so on. Carried out to its theoretical limit, the original deposit of $100,000 could expand into a total of $500,000 in deposits and $400,000 in credit.

In other words, when bank credit is forzen,the negative effect of reduced credit is also multiplied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilani's analyses are excellent. Just one technical point. The credit problem of the banks is actually worse than what Gilani has described due to the so-called credit multiplfier effect as described by Keynes. That is, commercial banks do not just lend money that is deposited or borrowed. Commercial banks actually "create" money by lending. This is the endogenous theory of money.</p>
<p>For your reference, form Financial &amp; Investment Dictionary:</p>
<p>Deposit multiplier or credit multiplier: magnifies small changes in bank deposits into changes in the amount of outstanding credit and the money supply. For example, a bank receives a deposit of $100,000, and the Reserve Requirement is 20%. The bank is thus required to keep $20,000 in the form of reserves. The remaining $80,000 becomes a loan, which is deposited in the borrower's bank. When the borrower's bank sets aside the $16,000 required reserve out of the $80,000, $64,000 is available for another loan and another deposit, and so on. Carried out to its theoretical limit, the original deposit of $100,000 could expand into a total of $500,000 in deposits and $400,000 in credit.</p>
<p>In other words, when bank credit is forzen,the negative effect of reduced credit is also multiplied.</p>
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		<title>By: Are Banks Still Lending? - Page 8 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are Banks Still Lending? - Page 8 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Talking About :: The Market Oracle :: Financial Markets Analysis &amp; Forecasting Free Website  Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed&rsquo;s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it P...  Do yourselves a favor and read both of these articles. Must read stuff. Credit defaul swaps and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Jensen</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2512</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I leave it to those educated in these things to construct the methods necessary to accomplish this suggestion.

Why not refinance all of these problem loans, those that started life as ARMS or interest only or anthing else that would morph into high interest loans, into 30 or 40 year loans at low fixed rates.

There is no excuse for lowering the face amount of the mortgages.  So what if they&#039;re underwater.  Underwater only matters if refinancing is necessary.  Everyone who ever buys a house with a mortgage faces the possibility of one day being underwater.  If the buyer has misjudged the market, that is his responsibility.  Those who &quot;bought&quot; houses they couldn&#039;t afford (even if the interest rate were to have remained low) absolutely do not deserve to keep those houses while the rest of us, who either bought houses we could afford or didn&#039;t buy because we could not afford to, pay (through our taxes) for the imprudent buyers to stay where they don&#039;t belong.

The pain of the costs associated with reducing the interest rates from the prospective (or already real) punishingly high rates should somehow fall on all the players who fed at the trough of this slimey scheme.  That should, as much as possible, include the foolish buyers (dealt with in the paragraph above), mortgage brokers, the mortgage companies, the banks, the investment banks, the ratings agencies, and the investors (especially hedge funds) who chose to believe that higher rates of return didn&#039;t suggest higher risk.  Oh, and find a special place in hell for the creators of credit default swaps and other &quot;sophisticated&quot; derivitives.  As I said above, I leave the mechanics of seeking to achieve all of this to those with the necessary capability.

If this results in bank failures, so be it.  If the FDIC can engineer the saving of worthy banks, find.  If not, fine.  Those who lived high on the hog while ignoring the damage they were doing should pay.

If the FED is actually part of the problem, let&#039;s look for a better system, and start over.  We don&#039;t have to live with them any more than we have to live with the banks that failed to assess the risks of the mortgages they facilitated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I leave it to those educated in these things to construct the methods necessary to accomplish this suggestion.</p>
<p>Why not refinance all of these problem loans, those that started life as ARMS or interest only or anthing else that would morph into high interest loans, into 30 or 40 year loans at low fixed rates.</p>
<p>There is no excuse for lowering the face amount of the mortgages.  So what if they're underwater.  Underwater only matters if refinancing is necessary.  Everyone who ever buys a house with a mortgage faces the possibility of one day being underwater.  If the buyer has misjudged the market, that is his responsibility.  Those who "bought" houses they couldn't afford (even if the interest rate were to have remained low) absolutely do not deserve to keep those houses while the rest of us, who either bought houses we could afford or didn't buy because we could not afford to, pay (through our taxes) for the imprudent buyers to stay where they don't belong.</p>
<p>The pain of the costs associated with reducing the interest rates from the prospective (or already real) punishingly high rates should somehow fall on all the players who fed at the trough of this slimey scheme.  That should, as much as possible, include the foolish buyers (dealt with in the paragraph above), mortgage brokers, the mortgage companies, the banks, the investment banks, the ratings agencies, and the investors (especially hedge funds) who chose to believe that higher rates of return didn't suggest higher risk.  Oh, and find a special place in hell for the creators of credit default swaps and other "sophisticated" derivitives.  As I said above, I leave the mechanics of seeking to achieve all of this to those with the necessary capability.</p>
<p>If this results in bank failures, so be it.  If the FDIC can engineer the saving of worthy banks, find.  If not, fine.  Those who lived high on the hog while ignoring the damage they were doing should pay.</p>
<p>If the FED is actually part of the problem, let's look for a better system, and start over.  We don't have to live with them any more than we have to live with the banks that failed to assess the risks of the mortgages they facilitated.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. True</title>
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		<dc:creator>David W. True</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush warned us two times.  McCain tried once to pass a bill to stop the sub-prime mess.  Who in their right mind would lend money to people who can not repay the loan! Only politians buying votes in 1977 and 1979.

When I left graduate school I lived in apartments until I could afford a house.  At 32 I purchased a small house.  At 39 I got married. Maybe I was slow, but I was careful. That is better for the economy than being reckless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush warned us two times.  McCain tried once to pass a bill to stop the sub-prime mess.  Who in their right mind would lend money to people who can not repay the loan! Only politians buying votes in 1977 and 1979.</p>
<p>When I left graduate school I lived in apartments until I could afford a house.  At 32 I purchased a small house.  At 39 I got married. Maybe I was slow, but I was careful. That is better for the economy than being reckless.</p>
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		<title>By: George Franco</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2510</link>
		<dc:creator>George Franco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Nixon in 1974 removed the gold standard for the dollar, largly due to France&#039;s demand for the gold in exchange for the dollars they held  at the time , the World has been on a financial merry to round and now must jump off.
Paper money will become worthless and gold and silver, just like in the time of the Romans will be the median of exchange unless the World goes back to the gold standard within the next two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Nixon in 1974 removed the gold standard for the dollar, largly due to France's demand for the gold in exchange for the dollars they held  at the time , the World has been on a financial merry to round and now must jump off.<br />
Paper money will become worthless and gold and silver, just like in the time of the Romans will be the median of exchange unless the World goes back to the gold standard within the next two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredric Dennis Williams</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2508</link>
		<dc:creator>Fredric Dennis Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;Valued Customer&quot; may have a point when he says that the obvious solution -- helping homeowners -- is being ignored and that the most improbable and least useful step, nationalization and further concentration of finance in the hands of the largest banks and the most corrupt institutions may be deliberate. Welcome to the National Socialist (Nazi) system of the 1930s.

On a more critical note, why do you use this unreadable green for comments -- do you want to discourage them?

Finally, you have a link promising a dream investment in Wisconsin (my home state) that says &quot;For instance, just check out this new report on a Wisconsin-based company we&#039;ve discovered that&#039;s posting quarter after quarter of earnings surprises &quot;- but it actually leads to a rather sleazy come-on beginning &quot;Special Bulletin -- The “Super Crash” May
Soon Devastate Millions Of Americans…&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think "Valued Customer" may have a point when he says that the obvious solution &#8212; helping homeowners &#8212; is being ignored and that the most improbable and least useful step, nationalization and further concentration of finance in the hands of the largest banks and the most corrupt institutions may be deliberate. Welcome to the National Socialist (Nazi) system of the 1930s.</p>
<p>On a more critical note, why do you use this unreadable green for comments &#8212; do you want to discourage them?</p>
<p>Finally, you have a link promising a dream investment in Wisconsin (my home state) that says "For instance, just check out this new report on a Wisconsin-based company we've discovered that's posting quarter after quarter of earnings surprises "- but it actually leads to a rather sleazy come-on beginning "Special Bulletin &#8212; The “Super Crash” May<br />
Soon Devastate Millions Of Americans…"</p>
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		<title>By: Rick R. Pelley</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2507</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick R. Pelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can agonize and babble about this “threat” ‘til we’re blue in the face, but by so doing, change nothing.

As individuals, or as collectives of individuals, we exercise “no control” whatsoever over what is “far beyond” reach.

Here is a reality check:

This thing called “money” and “all” that we’ve been taught it means since the day we came into the world, is now “broken” and cannot be “fixed”. This false valuation “idol” that we’ve carried around within our hearts has been, in our time, finally  “exposed” as worthless.

It always was a “false” representation of human “value” if only because of the outrageous “misery” inflicted to those “blocked” from adequate access to it. But, now, “everyone” is about to “know” the pain of existing “without”. The world’s playing field is “equalizing” or “leveling out” for all to “see”.

Governments, by their “central banks” are already taking control of “valuation” from the hands of traditional banking regimes in order to “fix” money. With this desperate action, we will eventually, and quickly, see the demise, around the world, of all traditional banking regimes along with their money market exchange devices.

So-called G7 leaders, amid ongoing emergency meetings, are already “divesting” banker custodians of their long-held power. This action exasperates a final panic “freeze” among the world’s banks, which will result in their “split” into “three” separate “non-cooperating” entities. They split up because they don’t trust each other.

Central banks will then “exclusively” try to run the commerce of the world.

Is this going to work?

But, for a time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can agonize and babble about this “threat” ‘til we’re blue in the face, but by so doing, change nothing.</p>
<p>As individuals, or as collectives of individuals, we exercise “no control” whatsoever over what is “far beyond” reach.</p>
<p>Here is a reality check:</p>
<p>This thing called “money” and “all” that we’ve been taught it means since the day we came into the world, is now “broken” and cannot be “fixed”. This false valuation “idol” that we’ve carried around within our hearts has been, in our time, finally  “exposed” as worthless.</p>
<p>It always was a “false” representation of human “value” if only because of the outrageous “misery” inflicted to those “blocked” from adequate access to it. But, now, “everyone” is about to “know” the pain of existing “without”. The world’s playing field is “equalizing” or “leveling out” for all to “see”.</p>
<p>Governments, by their “central banks” are already taking control of “valuation” from the hands of traditional banking regimes in order to “fix” money. With this desperate action, we will eventually, and quickly, see the demise, around the world, of all traditional banking regimes along with their money market exchange devices.</p>
<p>So-called G7 leaders, amid ongoing emergency meetings, are already “divesting” banker custodians of their long-held power. This action exasperates a final panic “freeze” among the world’s banks, which will result in their “split” into “three” separate “non-cooperating” entities. They split up because they don’t trust each other.</p>
<p>Central banks will then “exclusively” try to run the commerce of the world.</p>
<p>Is this going to work?</p>
<p>But, for a time!</p>
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		<title>By: Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed’s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Powerless to Stop the Financial Meltdown &#171; Financial Reviews</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2506</link>
		<dc:creator>Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed’s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Powerless to Stop the Financial Meltdown &#171; Financial Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] October 11, 2008 at 11:10 am &#183; Filed under Uncategorized   Inside the Credit Crisis: How the Fed’s Efforts to Lower the Fed Funds Rate May Leave it Powerless&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chris erickson</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2008/10/10/federal-funds-target-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-2505</link>
		<dc:creator>chris erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have to agree with Mr. Gilani to a certin extent ; the Fed &amp; Congress are going about this the wrong way to a certin extent... I agree that they should take a equity stake
in the banks that they help  &amp; that they should buy some of the debt from the holders of said toxic debt .. But thay should buy it at a discount of 30% to 50% of stated value ..
But he simple way to have delt with the main issue would have been &amp; still could/should be is to have the holders/lenders or banks ddiscount , write down all of the loans that they hold ; depending on the fall in value of said
properties in the areas they are in ; some areas / markets
have fallen more than others... or the othe option would have been / still could be ( &amp; probley the best one is just drop the instrest rates on all the loans they are holding to 4.5% &amp;
fix them for 30 years at this rate .. )... For the hardest hit
areas where the martket value has fallen 30 to 40 % ; not
only should they adjust the loan rate but the amount of the loan ...It would be cheaper than what they are doing now
selling the homes for 50% of what the original amount was
plus the cost of foreclosure , repair &amp; cost of resale....
This could be done over night  if Congress , the Fed &amp; Treasury would get together .. At the same time by injecting
the banks with funds they would free up the credit markets ..But they would have to make it understood that if
 That if they help the banks out with funds that the banks
would have to loan  any funds above the amount needed to
keep the regulators happy...But as you see the Fed &amp; Treasury are run by Bankers / Brokers.. &amp; as you well konw bankers when there is a problem tuck their tail between their leggs &amp; put their heads where the  sun doesn&#039;t shine ... They allways  get it wrong/ backwords....Then keep Fanni &amp; Freddi  as goverment enities  that is where they started ... all the lonas they hold provid income ; use it to pay off the national debt... These actions would help main street &amp; at the same time help the lenders/banks with their cash flow......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have to agree with Mr. Gilani to a certin extent ; the Fed &amp; Congress are going about this the wrong way to a certin extent&#8230; I agree that they should take a equity stake<br />
in the banks that they help  &amp; that they should buy some of the debt from the holders of said toxic debt .. But thay should buy it at a discount of 30% to 50% of stated value ..<br />
But he simple way to have delt with the main issue would have been &amp; still could/should be is to have the holders/lenders or banks ddiscount , write down all of the loans that they hold ; depending on the fall in value of said<br />
properties in the areas they are in ; some areas / markets<br />
have fallen more than others&#8230; or the othe option would have been / still could be ( &amp; probley the best one is just drop the instrest rates on all the loans they are holding to 4.5% &amp;<br />
fix them for 30 years at this rate .. )&#8230; For the hardest hit<br />
areas where the martket value has fallen 30 to 40 % ; not<br />
only should they adjust the loan rate but the amount of the loan &#8230;It would be cheaper than what they are doing now<br />
selling the homes for 50% of what the original amount was<br />
plus the cost of foreclosure , repair &amp; cost of resale&#8230;.<br />
This could be done over night  if Congress , the Fed &amp; Treasury would get together .. At the same time by injecting<br />
the banks with funds they would free up the credit markets ..But they would have to make it understood that if<br />
 That if they help the banks out with funds that the banks<br />
would have to loan  any funds above the amount needed to<br />
keep the regulators happy&#8230;But as you see the Fed &amp; Treasury are run by Bankers / Brokers.. &amp; as you well konw bankers when there is a problem tuck their tail between their leggs &amp; put their heads where the  sun doesn't shine &#8230; They allways  get it wrong/ backwords&#8230;.Then keep Fanni &amp; Freddi  as goverment enities  that is where they started &#8230; all the lonas they hold provid income ; use it to pay off the national debt&#8230; These actions would help main street &amp; at the same time help the lenders/banks with their cash flow&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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