Comments on: The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/ Global Investment News Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:41:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Happy Holidays! Money Morning Readers Weigh In http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3609 Happy Holidays! Money Morning Readers Weigh In Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:30:21 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3609 [...] The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom [...] [...] The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom [...]

]]> By: The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom | Geiger Index - Keith Fitz-Gerald http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3608 The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom | Geiger Index - Keith Fitz-Gerald Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:31:16 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3608 [...] Keith Fitz-Gerald Editor, Griger Index Investment Director Money Morning Investment News/The Money Map [...] [...] Keith Fitz-Gerald Editor, Griger Index Investment Director Money Morning Investment News/The Money Map [...]

]]> By: The Five Keys to Value Investing Profits | Geiger Index - Keith Fitz-Gerald http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3607 The Five Keys to Value Investing Profits | Geiger Index - Keith Fitz-Gerald Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:27:13 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3607 [...] Keith Fitz-Gerald Editor, Griger Index Investment Director Money Morning Investment News/The Money Map [...] [...] Keith Fitz-Gerald Editor, Griger Index Investment Director Money Morning Investment News/The Money Map [...]

]]> By: Keith Fitz-Gerald | Geiger Index - Keith Fitz-Gerald http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3606 Keith Fitz-Gerald | Geiger Index - Keith Fitz-Gerald Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:06:51 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3606 [...] Money Morning Market Commentary: The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom.  [...] [...] Money Morning Market Commentary: The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom.  [...]

]]> By: Keith Fitz-Gerald http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3604 Keith Fitz-Gerald Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:24:32 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3604 [...] Money Morning Market Commentary: The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom.  [...] [...] Money Morning Market Commentary: The One Global Market Where There are Gains Behind the Gloom.  [...]

]]> By: admin http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3605 admin Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:04:09 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3605 Comment by P. Denaco on 21 November 2008: “Shows good thought in a general sense, but lacks content as to what you would recommend to do with that information. I was in China this past year, including the major cities of Beijing, Xian, and Shanghai. It is a powerhouse of labor potential, with over 200 million of that labor force being itinerants. They need to make “stuff” and to be able to sell it as well as to assure that, as a nation they have exposure to the raw materials and commodities it takes for them to continue. What say you as to actions to take re: China?” Great question – thank you! As you know from personal experience – having been there – Chinese companies active in the provision of water, electricity, filtration, travel and pollution control figure prominently in Beijing’s plans (and ours), which is why we’re focused on them right now. The same can be said for the international companies tied up with them. Obviously there are other trends to consider in China, but there’s nothing else even remotely on the radar screen with this kind of potential and state funding. Keith Fitz-Gerald Investment Director Money Morning Comment by P. Denaco on 21 November 2008:
“Shows good thought in a general sense, but lacks content as to what you would recommend to do with that information. I was in China this past year, including the major cities of Beijing, Xian, and Shanghai. It is a powerhouse of labor potential, with over 200 million of that labor force being itinerants. They need to make “stuff” and to be able to sell it as well as to assure that, as a nation they have exposure to the raw materials and commodities it takes for them to continue. What say you as to actions to take re: China?”

Great question – thank you! As you know from personal experience – having been there – Chinese companies active in the provision of water, electricity, filtration, travel and pollution control figure prominently in Beijing’s plans (and ours), which is why we’re focused on them right now. The same can be said for the international companies tied up with them. Obviously there are other trends to consider in China, but there’s nothing else even remotely on the radar screen with this kind of potential and state funding.

Keith Fitz-Gerald
Investment Director
Money Morning

]]> By: Su Xiang Yan http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3603 Su Xiang Yan Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:32:20 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3603 Accolades! You can obviously see the big picture. The Occidental world has a few lessons to learn from China...should the West so chose to do so, right up to an including the most current initiatives being taken by Beijing. While nothing is ever perfect, what China has accomplished in over the past 25+ years socially, politically and economically is unprecedented in the history of civilization of mankind, much less what America has accomplished since 1776! Ironcially, since the death of Mao in 1976, but without conincidence, America has gone from Prince to Pauper status and China has achieved the exact opposite status. It is a good thing China is in the position it is in for the world economies sake. No different than China's system was essentially defunct in 1976, today the Occidental world is in need of a new paradigm. I suggest a starting point is to look and learn what China (57 geographically dispersed minorities) has done in the past 25 years as never before has there been such a role reversal. Until such time 'band-aids will be band-aid'. All the aid in the world will not fix the problems at hand. We have something to learn from everybody....including China! Accolades! You can obviously see the big picture.

The Occidental world has a few lessons to learn from China…should the West so chose to do so, right up to an including the most current initiatives being taken by Beijing. While nothing is ever perfect, what China has accomplished in over the past 25+ years socially, politically and economically is unprecedented in the history of civilization of mankind, much less what America has accomplished since 1776!

Ironcially, since the death of Mao in 1976, but without conincidence, America has gone from Prince to Pauper status and China has achieved the exact opposite status. It is a good thing China is in the position it is in for the world economies sake.

No different than China's system was essentially defunct in 1976, today the Occidental world is in need of a new paradigm. I suggest a starting point is to look and learn what China (57 geographically dispersed minorities) has done in the past 25 years as never before has there been such a role reversal. Until such time 'band-aids will be band-aid'. All the aid in the world will not fix the problems at hand. We have something to learn from everybody….including China!

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]]> By: Dr SO Uremadu, Head of Banking & Finance, Covenant University, Ota, Nigeria http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3601 Dr SO Uremadu, Head of Banking & Finance, Covenant University, Ota, Nigeria Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:40:56 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3601 I agree wholly that the USA with about 648 military bases worldwide is fighting many wars `in so many fronts some of which are not necessary as they are gulping the taxpayers' money. There is definitely need for restraints in its balance of power pursuit in this wider world of 21st century. There may be other ways to maintain dominance without increasing the costs of doing it. These other ways should be devised and or sought for. I concur with most of the opions canversed here by other commentators. I agree wholly that the USA with about 648 military bases worldwide is fighting many wars `in so many fronts some of which are not necessary as they are gulping the taxpayers' money. There is definitely need for restraints in its balance of power pursuit in this wider world of 21st century. There may be other ways to maintain dominance without increasing the costs of doing it. These other ways should be devised and or sought for. I concur with most of the opions canversed here by other commentators.

]]> By: Scott http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3600 Scott Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:04:11 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3600 Good thing China is spending all their money. Maybe when things go down the crapper for them, they'll give us a discount on what we owe them? Good thing China is spending all their money. Maybe when things go down the crapper for them, they'll give us a discount on what we owe them?

]]> By: Dr SO Uremadu, Head of Banking & Finance, Covenant University, Ota, Nigeria http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3592 Dr SO Uremadu, Head of Banking & Finance, Covenant University, Ota, Nigeria Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:15:50 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3592 Looking through China's stimulus package one observes that these are real asset productive investments that will lead to huge accumulation of capital formation which will spark off wealthcreation in real terms and in turn boost economic growth . With its target for job creation it will definitely rise GDP IN THE YEARS AHEAD. I seriously support China's positive moves. Looking through China's stimulus package one observes that these are real asset productive investments that will lead to huge accumulation of capital formation which will spark off wealthcreation in real terms and in turn boost economic growth . With its target for job creation it will definitely rise GDP IN THE YEARS AHEAD. I seriously support China's positive moves.

]]> By: Dr SO Uremadu, Head of Banking & Finance, Covenant University, Ota, Nigeria http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3595 Dr SO Uremadu, Head of Banking & Finance, Covenant University, Ota, Nigeria Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:02:32 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3595 The One Global Market Where There Are Gains Behind The Gloom:Comments No matter what, China's economic growth still holds waters. Even if it reduces time being due to ongoing global financial crisis, it will sooner than later pick up again. China has a work force that has apetite for hard work, very frugal and saves more than readily disposed to spendrift unlike what is obtainable in the US where people depend mainly onconsumption credit to squander what has been created.In the final analysis, China with its huge forign reserves valued at 1.9trillion USD, a big reservior of well disciplined hu The One Global Market Where There Are Gains Behind The Gloom:Comments

No matter what, China's economic growth still holds waters. Even if it reduces time being due to ongoing global financial crisis, it will sooner than later pick up again. China has a work force that has apetite for hard work, very frugal and saves more than readily disposed to spendrift unlike what is obtainable in the US where people depend mainly onconsumption credit to squander what has been created.In the final analysis, China with its huge forign reserves valued at 1.9trillion USD, a big reservior of well disciplined hu

]]> By: eugene tano http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3598 eugene tano Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:20:04 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3598 i agree with don, the us military has 648 bases world wide. these cost trillions to build and 500 billion each year to operate and maintain. why ??? do we need 648 bases. is it really necessary to waste so much of the peoples money on the military when john doe is going broke, his jobs are going to slave labor camps in china who then ship back junk products to us and then laugh. its time for our bumb politicians to earn their keep instead of being on the take and making one stupid mistake after another.. i say sell as many us assets as we can and use this capital to get the country moving. if we keep spending money we dont have.. then we will did ourselves a hole with no--bottom. and we will be doomed for ever. its time to use our brains for==a===change-,,,,,,,,, i agree with don, the us military has 648 bases world wide. these cost trillions to build and 500 billion each year to operate and maintain. why ??? do we need 648 bases. is it really necessary to waste so much of the peoples money on the military when john doe is going broke, his jobs are going to slave labor camps in china who then ship back junk products to us and then laugh. its time for our bumb politicians to earn their keep instead of being on the take and making one stupid mistake after another.. i say sell as many us assets as we can and use this capital to get the country moving. if we keep spending money we dont have.. then we will did ourselves a hole with no–bottom. and we will be doomed for ever. its time to use our brains for==a===change-,,,,,,,,,

]]> By: Rayford http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3597 Rayford Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:57:44 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3597 You imply the US should make a larger stimulus package. There is a difference. China has our money. We owe Trillions. We cannot stimulate ourselves, just as dirty as it sounds, by borrowing from our future or diluting our money. You imply the US should make a larger stimulus package. There is a difference. China has our money. We owe Trillions. We cannot stimulate ourselves, just as dirty as it sounds, by borrowing from our future or diluting our money.

]]> By: Dhruba Munshi http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3596 Dhruba Munshi Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:18:46 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3596 Whom do you hold responsible for this whole mess? India has all the three so called financial and economics geniuses at the helm of affairs, the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Finance Minister Chidambaram and Montek Singh, the Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, yet Indian economy,trade and the bourses are is doldrums. No body bothers about the country - only self & Party. Robert Kiyosaki in his book Prophecy had predicted this, but people call him a radical. It is only the profit driven economics which is responsible for this fiscal chaos that we are in. Whom do you hold responsible for this whole mess? India has all the three so called financial and economics geniuses at the helm of affairs, the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Finance Minister Chidambaram and Montek Singh, the Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, yet Indian economy,trade and the bourses are is doldrums.
No body bothers about the country – only self & Party.
Robert Kiyosaki in his book Prophecy had predicted this, but people call him a radical.
It is only the profit driven economics which is responsible for this fiscal chaos that we are in.

]]> By: Tom http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3599 Tom Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:23:24 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3599 Hey Paul, Pass another doobie, dude! Hey Paul,
Pass another doobie, dude!

]]> By: don http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3594 don Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:21:10 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3594 These chinese make work projects will just exacerbate and lengthen their recession just as roosevelt's did and paulson/obama's will do here. govt can't create one job. they have nothing except that which they steal from us...and there is an enormous DC/Beijing service charge before funds arrive in the hinterlands. far better to sell off some govt assets (how about Pentagon's property to start), and distribute the proceeds to each of us equal owners. These chinese make work projects will just exacerbate and lengthen their recession just as roosevelt's did and paulson/obama's will do here. govt can't create one job. they have nothing except that which they steal from us…and there is an enormous DC/Beijing service charge before funds arrive in the hinterlands. far better to sell off some govt assets (how about Pentagon's property to start), and distribute the proceeds to each of us equal owners.

]]> By: Paul http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3593 Paul Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:53:46 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3593 Honourable Fitz-Gerald, let me put something to you in simple terms. Think of the current financial landscape as a farm with livestock, any form of livestock. A portion of the Livestock dies, a portion is still living. The owner of the farm decides to sell or ask for a bailout. Would you be interested in the dead livestock or the living ones? Honourable Fitz-Gerald, let me put something to you in simple terms. Think of the current financial landscape as a farm with livestock, any form of livestock. A portion of the Livestock dies, a portion is still living. The owner of the farm decides to sell or ask for a bailout. Would you be interested in the dead livestock or the living ones?

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]]> By: Nick Bacani http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3588 Nick Bacani Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:05:22 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3588 I do hope that those who are in power as well as those who will start sitting of the throne read your articles......and make sense of it. I makes a lot of sense to me! Keep them coming! Thanx, cheerz n all the best! Nick I do hope that those who are in power as well as those who will start sitting of the throne read your articles……and make sense of it.
I makes a lot of sense to me!

Keep them coming!

Thanx, cheerz n all the best!

Nick

]]> By: Scott http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3589 Scott Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:59:48 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3589 Hi Money Morning, Your ideas, news and happenings really help me to make a new step in my business from early morning to late night. I cant afford to miss your news. Thanks for publishing honest and fresh news. Scott Hi Money Morning,

Your ideas, news and happenings really help me to make a new step in my business from early morning to late night.

I cant afford to miss your news.

Thanks for publishing honest and fresh news.

Scott

]]> By: P. Denaco http://moneymorning.com/2008/11/21/china-stimulus-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3590 P. Denaco Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:10:26 +0000 http://www.moneymorning.com/?p=3384#comment-3590 Shows good thought in a general sense, but lacks content as to what you would recommend to do with that information. I was in China this past year, including the major cities of Beijing, Xian, and Shanghai. It is a powerhouse of labor potential, with over 200 million of that labor force being itinerants. They need to make "stuff" and to be able to sell it as well as to assure that, as a nation they have exposure to the raw materials and commodities it takes for them to continue. What say you as to actions to take re: China? Shows good thought in a general sense, but lacks content as to what you would recommend to do with that information. I was in China this past year, including the major cities of Beijing, Xian, and Shanghai. It is a powerhouse of labor potential, with over 200 million of that labor force being itinerants. They need to make "stuff" and to be able to sell it as well as to assure that, as a nation they have exposure to the raw materials and commodities it takes for them to continue. What say you as to actions to take re: China?

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