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	<title>Comments on: The Three Missteps in President Obama’s Economic Turnaround Plan</title>
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		<title>By: Three Reasons Bank Nationalization Will Keep Investors Awake at Night</title>
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		<dc:creator>Three Reasons Bank Nationalization Will Keep Investors Awake at Night</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] threatening to a healthy bank shareholder, however, would be a new government lending institution, as proposed in U.S. President Barack Obama&#8217;s speech Tuesday night. While that institution might be very slow in getting organized and not a particularly intelligent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Blain</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2009/02/26/obama-speech-financial-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-5513</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Blain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a debtor crisis, not a credit crisis.  Banks, credit card companies, insurance companies have put debtors in a trap that they cannot escape except by putting other debtors into it.  We must stop financing with loans at interest.  Debt in the United States has been growing at about six percent annually since 1790 when the money supply itself was based on debt as recommended by Alexander Hamilton.  Until we understand that money cannot grow, that interest should be no more than a simple fee for service, we will go ever further into debt while thinking we are getting our of it.  That is a first step.  The one that will fix this and many other problems is to adopt a metric for money, like every other method of measuring.  That metric is an Hour of work.  Put the Hour on every money in the world and follow the standard that an hour of money is a fair wage and price for an hour of work.  We must unite Time and Money as people already do intuitively.  Time Money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a debtor crisis, not a credit crisis.  Banks, credit card companies, insurance companies have put debtors in a trap that they cannot escape except by putting other debtors into it.  We must stop financing with loans at interest.  Debt in the United States has been growing at about six percent annually since 1790 when the money supply itself was based on debt as recommended by Alexander Hamilton.  Until we understand that money cannot grow, that interest should be no more than a simple fee for service, we will go ever further into debt while thinking we are getting our of it.  That is a first step.  The one that will fix this and many other problems is to adopt a metric for money, like every other method of measuring.  That metric is an Hour of work.  Put the Hour on every money in the world and follow the standard that an hour of money is a fair wage and price for an hour of work.  We must unite Time and Money as people already do intuitively.  Time Money!</p>
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		<title>By: warrwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>warrwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe I’m a grouchy old skeptic, but it doesn’t look to me as if the math adds up.&quot;
mmmmmm.... that is an emotional response to a mathematical proposition.

Could you rescue your own standing (in my eyes) by presenting a justified critique of the math, in mathematical terms, without which you sound like a, simple....... well, a simple politician casting a net of unsubstantiated hyperbolae.

I dont want to see my subscription commentators going the same way as the elected lot so get your act together and back up what you allege with some coherent thought.

Cheers
W</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe I’m a grouchy old skeptic, but it doesn’t look to me as if the math adds up.&#8221;<br />
mmmmmm&#8230;. that is an emotional response to a mathematical proposition.</p>
<p>Could you rescue your own standing (in my eyes) by presenting a justified critique of the math, in mathematical terms, without which you sound like a, simple&#8230;&#8230;. well, a simple politician casting a net of unsubstantiated hyperbolae.</p>
<p>I dont want to see my subscription commentators going the same way as the elected lot so get your act together and back up what you allege with some coherent thought.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
W</p>
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		<title>By: Record Job Losses to Continue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Record Job Losses to Continue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his first address to Congress last Tuesday night, U.S. President Barack Obama tried to find the middle ground between fear and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gouranga</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2009/02/26/obama-speech-financial-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-5502</link>
		<dc:creator>Gouranga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the President informed from the start this is a new age for new ideas. Do you know what difference it would make financially if we can produce our renewable green own energy? You still think that he is not providig long term solution to jobs or financially?  Of course the oil sector will hate him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the President informed from the start this is a new age for new ideas. Do you know what difference it would make financially if we can produce our renewable green own energy? You still think that he is not providig long term solution to jobs or financially?  Of course the oil sector will hate him.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Polimeni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Polimeni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hot topic!

Mistake No. 1
Laying it on the lap of the Fed’s money supply increase is inappropriate. The financial community has and has had for a long time the ability to inflate the system through the creation of any number of financial instruments, many of which are still little understood. Let’s just take leveraging and allowing 5% of an asset as sufficient to control that asset. That’s an increase in money supply since it give money the power to buy 20 times more than if the entire 100% was required. Monetizing future income, such as the Philadelphia school district, is just another way of adding to the purchasing power supply. This was just one of many ways of taking an asset/debt and monetizing it, thus adding to the money supply. So between the Fed and the financial community they did in fact inflate the financial markets.
Then, given the clever ways the financial community avoided reserve requirements rendered large portions of deposits not subject to reserves, thus, these portions could be multiplied at infinitum.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been a member of the financial community
The public is told that the banking system’s problem is the toxic assets, and for that reason they can’t lend; when they then get TARP money, instead of starting to lend, they buy other banks to heal their balance sheets.
I would expect inflation as the financial community will start lending at about the same time as the Recovery package money starts being released; it’s a good plan to blame inflation on government actions. However, inflation can be managed if the financial communities stop relying on macro-economics as an unworkable control mechanism, and start treating the system more like a gas network, that has to distribute the right proportions fuel to many different communities. Maybe liken the money supply management to an intricate navigation system, with locks, gates, reservoirs, and channels, monitoring the flow, and opening or closing controls, depending on what’s really happening on the ground.

Mistake No. 2
Lending between banks may have improved, but it hasn’t benefited Main Street; companies that have had to close for lack of funds, haven’t reopened, and rehired people as a result of the improved bank lending. That’s what the economy is all about; not just financial markets, which in fact depend on the health of the real economy. The banks maybe in better shape, but they don’t seem to understand their responsibility to the real economy, and keep trading paper on some hope that the real economy will revive on its own, without liquidity from government… The banks aren’t providing it!
Save more versus borrow more: Our financial system is debt based; it seems the only way to increase liquidity is through borrowing. This is probably the fundamental flaw that will fuel the booms and busts, as there’s no way to avoid bankruptcies, defaults, and foreclosures, even with the economy at its best.

Mistake No. 3
Here it is reasonable to agree with your evaluation, which is likely to be the case if the old system of money supply management is applied. Obama talked about different sources to make up the shortfalls. In my “navigation system” scenario, you can say that some of the large reservoirs will start being drained into the navigation system.
I doubt you’re a grouchy old skeptic, but I’m sure that you are only thinking from within the economic box we’ve been in for hundreds of years, particularly the monetary system and method of money creation. As it is, the current system is almost totally in the hands of the financial community; when they’re in trouble, they go to the government (the people) to ask for new money… so they can monetize and multiply more and more.
I think Reagan was not as believable as Obama, which maybe a good thing or a bad thing. We believe Reagan, and see where it got us!
As for “middle of the road” I would quote Hightower, “There’s nothing but yellow lines, and dead opossums in the middle of the road.” I guess we read different opinions and feel different pulses. What I see, hear, and read, tells me the majority of the population is more interested in a progressive agenda, even many who think of themselves as “conservatives.” But today’s definitions fall short of reality, so yesterday’s progressive is today’s right hardliner. Who knows?
Finally, I&#039;m just a 67 year-old student, and Mr. Martin might be able to educate me a bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hot topic!</p>
<p>Mistake No. 1<br />
Laying it on the lap of the Fed’s money supply increase is inappropriate. The financial community has and has had for a long time the ability to inflate the system through the creation of any number of financial instruments, many of which are still little understood. Let’s just take leveraging and allowing 5% of an asset as sufficient to control that asset. That’s an increase in money supply since it give money the power to buy 20 times more than if the entire 100% was required. Monetizing future income, such as the Philadelphia school district, is just another way of adding to the purchasing power supply. This was just one of many ways of taking an asset/debt and monetizing it, thus adding to the money supply. So between the Fed and the financial community they did in fact inflate the financial markets.<br />
Then, given the clever ways the financial community avoided reserve requirements rendered large portions of deposits not subject to reserves, thus, these portions could be multiplied at infinitum.<br />
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been a member of the financial community<br />
The public is told that the banking system’s problem is the toxic assets, and for that reason they can’t lend; when they then get TARP money, instead of starting to lend, they buy other banks to heal their balance sheets.<br />
I would expect inflation as the financial community will start lending at about the same time as the Recovery package money starts being released; it’s a good plan to blame inflation on government actions. However, inflation can be managed if the financial communities stop relying on macro-economics as an unworkable control mechanism, and start treating the system more like a gas network, that has to distribute the right proportions fuel to many different communities. Maybe liken the money supply management to an intricate navigation system, with locks, gates, reservoirs, and channels, monitoring the flow, and opening or closing controls, depending on what’s really happening on the ground.</p>
<p>Mistake No. 2<br />
Lending between banks may have improved, but it hasn’t benefited Main Street; companies that have had to close for lack of funds, haven’t reopened, and rehired people as a result of the improved bank lending. That’s what the economy is all about; not just financial markets, which in fact depend on the health of the real economy. The banks maybe in better shape, but they don’t seem to understand their responsibility to the real economy, and keep trading paper on some hope that the real economy will revive on its own, without liquidity from government… The banks aren’t providing it!<br />
Save more versus borrow more: Our financial system is debt based; it seems the only way to increase liquidity is through borrowing. This is probably the fundamental flaw that will fuel the booms and busts, as there’s no way to avoid bankruptcies, defaults, and foreclosures, even with the economy at its best.</p>
<p>Mistake No. 3<br />
Here it is reasonable to agree with your evaluation, which is likely to be the case if the old system of money supply management is applied. Obama talked about different sources to make up the shortfalls. In my “navigation system” scenario, you can say that some of the large reservoirs will start being drained into the navigation system.<br />
I doubt you’re a grouchy old skeptic, but I’m sure that you are only thinking from within the economic box we’ve been in for hundreds of years, particularly the monetary system and method of money creation. As it is, the current system is almost totally in the hands of the financial community; when they’re in trouble, they go to the government (the people) to ask for new money… so they can monetize and multiply more and more.<br />
I think Reagan was not as believable as Obama, which maybe a good thing or a bad thing. We believe Reagan, and see where it got us!<br />
As for “middle of the road” I would quote Hightower, “There’s nothing but yellow lines, and dead opossums in the middle of the road.” I guess we read different opinions and feel different pulses. What I see, hear, and read, tells me the majority of the population is more interested in a progressive agenda, even many who think of themselves as “conservatives.” But today’s definitions fall short of reality, so yesterday’s progressive is today’s right hardliner. Who knows?<br />
Finally, I&#8217;m just a 67 year-old student, and Mr. Martin might be able to educate me a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin Delano Roscoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin Delano Roscoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Martin you&#039;ve taken some heat for this article, but as A  long time democrat born when FDR took office, I say, right on, you voiced my concerns, though you could lay more of the blame on the previous administration and maybe that&#039;s with an &quot;s&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Martin you&#8217;ve taken some heat for this article, but as A  long time democrat born when FDR took office, I say, right on, you voiced my concerns, though you could lay more of the blame on the previous administration and maybe that&#8217;s with an &#8220;s&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Truthpeeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthpeeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to see what change looks like? Real change?

Well, here it is. Last week, President Obama unveiled his budget—his blueprint for America—and it&#039;s ambitious, amazing and unapologetically progressive. As Paul Krugman said, it will set America on a &quot;fundamentally new course.&quot;  I say it&#039;s about time. Count me among the millions of Americans who are tired of broken campaign promises and middle of the road pablum that gets nothing done.

President Obama called his budget &quot;a threat to the status quo,&quot; and trust me, the status quo noticed. Oil companies, big banks and insurance companies are already mobilizing to stop it.

Here are some really incredible things about Obama&#039;s plan. Check them out and then send them on to your friends and family so that millions of people will have the information they need to fight to make this vision a reality.

10 things you should know about Obama&#039;s plan (but probably don&#039;t)

The plan:

   1. Makes a $634 billion down payment on fixing health care that will go a long way toward paying for a more efficient, more affordable health care system that covers every single American.

   2. Reduces taxes for 95% of working Americans. And if your family makes less than $250,000, your taxes won&#039;t go up one dime.

   3. Invests more than $100 billion in clean energy technology, creating millions of green jobs that can never be outsourced.

   4. Brings our troops home from Iraq on a firm timetable, finally bringing the war to a close—and freeing up almost ten billion dollars a month for domestic priorities.

   5. Reverses growing income inequality. The plan lets the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire and focuses on strengthening the middle class.

   6. Closes multi-billion-dollar tax loopholes for big oil companies.

   7. Increases grants to help families pay for college—the largest increase ever.

   8. Halves the deficit by 2013. President Obama inherited a legacy of huge deficits and an economy in shambles, but his plan brings the deficit under control as soon as the economy begins to recover.

   9. Dramatically increases funding for the SEC and the CFTC—the agencies that police Wall Street.

  10. Tells it straight. For years, budgets have used accounting tricks to hide the real costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush tax cuts, and too many other programs. Obama&#039;s budget gets rid of the smokescreens and lays out what America&#039;s priorities are, what they cost, and how we&#039;re going to pay for them.

This is the change we voted for. President Obama has done his part, now we need to do ours.

Can you pass this on to your personal network? Just cut and paste into an email.

Here are a few more amazing things in Obama&#039;s budget:

   1. Stops unnecessary government subsidies to big banks, health insurance companies and big agribusinesses.

   2. Expands access to early childhood education and improves schools by investing in programs that make sure every child has a qualified, strong teacher.

   3. Negotiates for better prescription drug prices using Medicaid&#039;s tremendous bargaining power.

   4. Expands access to family planning for low-income women.

   5. Caps the pollution that causes global warming, and makes polluters pay to support clean energy innovation.

Martin, the author, said it.  He is a &quot;grouchy old skeptic&quot; who just doesn&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to see what change looks like? Real change?</p>
<p>Well, here it is. Last week, President Obama unveiled his budget—his blueprint for America—and it&#8217;s ambitious, amazing and unapologetically progressive. As Paul Krugman said, it will set America on a &#8220;fundamentally new course.&#8221;  I say it&#8217;s about time. Count me among the millions of Americans who are tired of broken campaign promises and middle of the road pablum that gets nothing done.</p>
<p>President Obama called his budget &#8220;a threat to the status quo,&#8221; and trust me, the status quo noticed. Oil companies, big banks and insurance companies are already mobilizing to stop it.</p>
<p>Here are some really incredible things about Obama&#8217;s plan. Check them out and then send them on to your friends and family so that millions of people will have the information they need to fight to make this vision a reality.</p>
<p>10 things you should know about Obama&#8217;s plan (but probably don&#8217;t)</p>
<p>The plan:</p>
<p>   1. Makes a $634 billion down payment on fixing health care that will go a long way toward paying for a more efficient, more affordable health care system that covers every single American.</p>
<p>   2. Reduces taxes for 95% of working Americans. And if your family makes less than $250,000, your taxes won&#8217;t go up one dime.</p>
<p>   3. Invests more than $100 billion in clean energy technology, creating millions of green jobs that can never be outsourced.</p>
<p>   4. Brings our troops home from Iraq on a firm timetable, finally bringing the war to a close—and freeing up almost ten billion dollars a month for domestic priorities.</p>
<p>   5. Reverses growing income inequality. The plan lets the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire and focuses on strengthening the middle class.</p>
<p>   6. Closes multi-billion-dollar tax loopholes for big oil companies.</p>
<p>   7. Increases grants to help families pay for college—the largest increase ever.</p>
<p>   8. Halves the deficit by 2013. President Obama inherited a legacy of huge deficits and an economy in shambles, but his plan brings the deficit under control as soon as the economy begins to recover.</p>
<p>   9. Dramatically increases funding for the SEC and the CFTC—the agencies that police Wall Street.</p>
<p>  10. Tells it straight. For years, budgets have used accounting tricks to hide the real costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush tax cuts, and too many other programs. Obama&#8217;s budget gets rid of the smokescreens and lays out what America&#8217;s priorities are, what they cost, and how we&#8217;re going to pay for them.</p>
<p>This is the change we voted for. President Obama has done his part, now we need to do ours.</p>
<p>Can you pass this on to your personal network? Just cut and paste into an email.</p>
<p>Here are a few more amazing things in Obama&#8217;s budget:</p>
<p>   1. Stops unnecessary government subsidies to big banks, health insurance companies and big agribusinesses.</p>
<p>   2. Expands access to early childhood education and improves schools by investing in programs that make sure every child has a qualified, strong teacher.</p>
<p>   3. Negotiates for better prescription drug prices using Medicaid&#8217;s tremendous bargaining power.</p>
<p>   4. Expands access to family planning for low-income women.</p>
<p>   5. Caps the pollution that causes global warming, and makes polluters pay to support clean energy innovation.</p>
<p>Martin, the author, said it.  He is a &#8220;grouchy old skeptic&#8221; who just doesn&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama may or may not be right to blame Wall Street for the current recession, but it is equally wrong to try to blame the Fed. Let me ask a simple question: If there were no subprime mortgages, would ANY of this have happened? Ridiculous loans drove up housing prices and set the stage for the real estate collapse and the massive foreclosure problem that ignited this decline. If those loans, which didn&#039;t even exist in the 90s, had not been made, the banks would not be getting killed right now and the massive global securitization problem wouldn&#039;t exist. It is the complete failure of the system to regulate these ridiculous loans out of existence that is at the heart of the problem. Excessive leverage is stupid, of course, but it only causes a problem during a crisis that, in this case, is manmade from start to finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama may or may not be right to blame Wall Street for the current recession, but it is equally wrong to try to blame the Fed. Let me ask a simple question: If there were no subprime mortgages, would ANY of this have happened? Ridiculous loans drove up housing prices and set the stage for the real estate collapse and the massive foreclosure problem that ignited this decline. If those loans, which didn&#8217;t even exist in the 90s, had not been made, the banks would not be getting killed right now and the massive global securitization problem wouldn&#8217;t exist. It is the complete failure of the system to regulate these ridiculous loans out of existence that is at the heart of the problem. Excessive leverage is stupid, of course, but it only causes a problem during a crisis that, in this case, is manmade from start to finish.</p>
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		<title>By: David Spence III</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Spence III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on. Don&#039;t tell  me you are in on the banking scam. How could you state the &#039;normal&#039;  way for banks to make  money is borrowing, and lending? It is vastly more profitable  for banks to counterfeit money, calling it  another  pc name-marginal banking. They make 1200% on deposits, and pay depostors  a measly 2 or 3%. Loaning out money that they &#039;invented&#039; without actually printing it. Costs less to counterfeit  that way. This is the real reason behind the financial implosion. A Scam with your government as willing co-conspirators. None of the politicians dare touch this sacred cows. Lucifer might get angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on. Don&#8217;t tell  me you are in on the banking scam. How could you state the &#8216;normal&#8217;  way for banks to make  money is borrowing, and lending? It is vastly more profitable  for banks to counterfeit money, calling it  another  pc name-marginal banking. They make 1200% on deposits, and pay depostors  a measly 2 or 3%. Loaning out money that they &#8216;invented&#8217; without actually printing it. Costs less to counterfeit  that way. This is the real reason behind the financial implosion. A Scam with your government as willing co-conspirators. None of the politicians dare touch this sacred cows. Lucifer might get angry.</p>
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