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		<title>By: Five Ways to Outsmart 31,179 Other Investors</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2009/06/02/wall-street-whoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-11452</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Ways to Outsmart 31,179 Other Investors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cash Inflation</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2009/06/02/wall-street-whoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-6728</link>
		<dc:creator>Cash Inflation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A T Cox</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2009/06/02/wall-street-whoppers/comment-page-1/#comment-6726</link>
		<dc:creator>A T Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must respectfully disagree with the analysis given by Dusty - perhaps he was more disciplined than I was. I have found that the cost of living even modestly has gotten out of hand - due to inflation, the magnitude of which is significantly understated by the government&#039;s methods of calclation. I am 70 years of age, working part time, partly from work satisfaction and partly from economic necessity. paid off the first mortgage on my present house in January(have lived here 24 years) (am still paying a smaller second mortgage for home improvements and credit card debt). At this time I am looking at future needs such as finishing the thermal windows (3 mortgage payments), new roof (10 payments), and replacement of aging heating and air conditioning (? number of payments). I don&#039;t know if my situation is typical but thought it was worth sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must respectfully disagree with the analysis given by Dusty &#8211; perhaps he was more disciplined than I was. I have found that the cost of living even modestly has gotten out of hand &#8211; due to inflation, the magnitude of which is significantly understated by the government's methods of calclation. I am 70 years of age, working part time, partly from work satisfaction and partly from economic necessity. paid off the first mortgage on my present house in January(have lived here 24 years) (am still paying a smaller second mortgage for home improvements and credit card debt). At this time I am looking at future needs such as finishing the thermal windows (3 mortgage payments), new roof (10 payments), and replacement of aging heating and air conditioning (? number of payments). I don't know if my situation is typical but thought it was worth sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: jack loew</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack loew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My e-mail has been changed and I have written three times about this and still you send it to the old one at vshanti@prodigy.net.mx.  Please change this to vshanti@ncia.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My e-mail has been changed and I have written three times about this and still you send it to the old one at vshanti@prodigy.net.mx.  Please change this to vshanti@ncia.net</p>
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		<title>By: A.M. Deist</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.M. Deist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:  You couldn’t be more correct in your statement”:  “But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, if you owe somebody money, you’ve still got to pay it off one day.”  That is why your next two statements:  “Refinance your house before interest rates begin rising dramatically to cope with the almost-certain after-effects of current stimulus spending”, and the one about your house “At best, it’s a roof over your head that keeps you from being priced out of the local rental markets.” is a total oxymoron.  Forget about investment.  In the case of most families, their house is their largest total and monthly expense, and to own one affords protection.  Does anyone think that those families living in tent city owned their homes outright?  No way.  It is more likely that some of them might have refinanced and spent the money they received.

In fact, there are many similarities between America today and the Roman Empire just before it fell.  The wealthy aren’t satisfied with their wealth, and continued taking alms from the people until there was no blood (alms) left in the turnip (middle class).   It is amazing how we have come to believe that if we say something enough times, maybe we can convince ourselves it is true.  Unfortunately, reality is just that.  I liken our top economists, saying that the recession will end at the end of 2009 to the meteorologists that say there is going to be sunshine, when it is raining outside.

Anyone that believes our stock markets are a safe haven for retirement money needs to think again.  For those who want to use the past as a predictor of the future, go read “The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.”

A.M. Deist, author, Amazon.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:  You couldn’t be more correct in your statement”:  “But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, if you owe somebody money, you’ve still got to pay it off one day.”  That is why your next two statements:  “Refinance your house before interest rates begin rising dramatically to cope with the almost-certain after-effects of current stimulus spending”, and the one about your house “At best, it’s a roof over your head that keeps you from being priced out of the local rental markets.” is a total oxymoron.  Forget about investment.  In the case of most families, their house is their largest total and monthly expense, and to own one affords protection.  Does anyone think that those families living in tent city owned their homes outright?  No way.  It is more likely that some of them might have refinanced and spent the money they received.</p>
<p>In fact, there are many similarities between America today and the Roman Empire just before it fell.  The wealthy aren’t satisfied with their wealth, and continued taking alms from the people until there was no blood (alms) left in the turnip (middle class).   It is amazing how we have come to believe that if we say something enough times, maybe we can convince ourselves it is true.  Unfortunately, reality is just that.  I liken our top economists, saying that the recession will end at the end of 2009 to the meteorologists that say there is going to be sunshine, when it is raining outside.</p>
<p>Anyone that believes our stock markets are a safe haven for retirement money needs to think again.  For those who want to use the past as a predictor of the future, go read “The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire.”</p>
<p>A.M. Deist, author, Amazon.com</p>
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		<title>By: The One Trading Secret Wall Street Doesn't Want You To Know</title>
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		<dc:creator>The One Trading Secret Wall Street Doesn't Want You To Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] frequently ask me why I&#8217;m such a vocal critic of Wall Street&#8217;s approach to diversification. And now you see [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VentureShadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>VentureShadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More perfect hindsight. The role model for this writing seems to be Arthur Conan Doyle; the logic involved is always retrospective. Let&#039;s be fair folks, the predictive value of this newsletter and its cohort is weak, very weak. The writers thump their chests because this is what they think they must to do hawk their publications.  The expertise of these writers is primarily in writing, not in economic predictions.

My best judgments have been in NOT going along with recommendations of these writers. The worst ones get replaced, and heard about no more--except for those who are obviously favorites of the boss (and we can tell by what the boss writes in his own newsletter).

After observing stock prices for decades and reading thousands of issues of financial publications I still can not identify what drives changes in stock prices more than briefly.  We have seen recently that nearly all investments are reduced to speculations. &quot;Investing&quot; is playing poker with unseen opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More perfect hindsight. The role model for this writing seems to be Arthur Conan Doyle; the logic involved is always retrospective. Let's be fair folks, the predictive value of this newsletter and its cohort is weak, very weak. The writers thump their chests because this is what they think they must to do hawk their publications.  The expertise of these writers is primarily in writing, not in economic predictions.</p>
<p>My best judgments have been in NOT going along with recommendations of these writers. The worst ones get replaced, and heard about no more&#8211;except for those who are obviously favorites of the boss (and we can tell by what the boss writes in his own newsletter).</p>
<p>After observing stock prices for decades and reading thousands of issues of financial publications I still can not identify what drives changes in stock prices more than briefly.  We have seen recently that nearly all investments are reduced to speculations. "Investing" is playing poker with unseen opponents.</p>
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		<title>By: GEORGE</title>
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		<dc:creator>GEORGE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very logically presented. It was refreshing an thought provoking.  I look forward to your next report</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very logically presented. It was refreshing an thought provoking.  I look forward to your next report</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Wardell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Wardell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is at the end of Wopper 5 &quot;Nothing - and I mean nothing - will matter until the banks start lending again.&quot;

Now please look at Wopper 2.

Which one is it? Debt is good? Debt is bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is at the end of Wopper 5 "Nothing &#8211; and I mean nothing &#8211; will matter until the banks start lending again."</p>
<p>Now please look at Wopper 2.</p>
<p>Which one is it? Debt is good? Debt is bad?</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Housing is a very real economic asset.  A house is not an ATM.  It is not &quot;Easy Money.&quot;  If you did not experience the Depression of the 1930&#039;s (even vicariously) you do not understand.

The game requires buying a house to be a residence for life.  Look at Warren Buffet.  If it is necessary for a young person or family,  buy a small house that is affordable.  When there is considerable equity available in that house AND incomes and careers have improved,  trade up to something better.  One trade is acceptable,  two is permissible but questionable.  At three,  most people will not live long enough to make the game work unless the object is to trade down for retirement to allow relocation.  Most relocation for retirement is following the herd and is actually undesirable.

If the game is followed properly,  by most of us ordinary people,  the mortgages should be fixed 15 year pay plans.  The first house is paid for by age 45;  a second house is paid for by or before age 55.

Once the housing all of us must have is paid for,  costs are limited to maintenance and taxes.  That is usually not more than an equivalent to one or two of those monthly mortgage payments.  Or one to three monthly rent payments.

Now the home owner with a paid-off mortgage has an effective (ghost?) income increase equal to the annual amount of mortgage or rent payments that do not have to be paid and also gains an amount added that would be the income taxes on that &#039;ghost&#039; income.

A family in retirement with paid-off mortgage with perhaps $2K a month income (SS?) has that amount for living expenses for most of the year.  A retired couple/person with a mortgage/rent payment of about $1K has to get by on half the total of the same SS check or other income.  Effective income with the paid-off mortgage is therefore $36K/yr,  OR real income of $24K with mortgage/rent is reduced to $12K/yr.

Finally,  in really hard times,  a person or family who is living in a house with a paid-off mortgage and living in a state with reasonable property rights laws can have a place to live-  a safe place to sleep,  shelter from the cold winds and the rain- regardless of job loss and other economic travail.

-----------Dusty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Housing is a very real economic asset.  A house is not an ATM.  It is not "Easy Money."  If you did not experience the Depression of the 1930's (even vicariously) you do not understand.</p>
<p>The game requires buying a house to be a residence for life.  Look at Warren Buffet.  If it is necessary for a young person or family,  buy a small house that is affordable.  When there is considerable equity available in that house AND incomes and careers have improved,  trade up to something better.  One trade is acceptable,  two is permissible but questionable.  At three,  most people will not live long enough to make the game work unless the object is to trade down for retirement to allow relocation.  Most relocation for retirement is following the herd and is actually undesirable.</p>
<p>If the game is followed properly,  by most of us ordinary people,  the mortgages should be fixed 15 year pay plans.  The first house is paid for by age 45;  a second house is paid for by or before age 55.</p>
<p>Once the housing all of us must have is paid for,  costs are limited to maintenance and taxes.  That is usually not more than an equivalent to one or two of those monthly mortgage payments.  Or one to three monthly rent payments.</p>
<p>Now the home owner with a paid-off mortgage has an effective (ghost?) income increase equal to the annual amount of mortgage or rent payments that do not have to be paid and also gains an amount added that would be the income taxes on that 'ghost' income.</p>
<p>A family in retirement with paid-off mortgage with perhaps $2K a month income (SS?) has that amount for living expenses for most of the year.  A retired couple/person with a mortgage/rent payment of about $1K has to get by on half the total of the same SS check or other income.  Effective income with the paid-off mortgage is therefore $36K/yr,  OR real income of $24K with mortgage/rent is reduced to $12K/yr.</p>
<p>Finally,  in really hard times,  a person or family who is living in a house with a paid-off mortgage and living in a state with reasonable property rights laws can have a place to live-  a safe place to sleep,  shelter from the cold winds and the rain- regardless of job loss and other economic travail.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;Dusty.</p>
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