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		<title>By: Martin Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the sitting President decides to spend TARP funds on his pet projects, how do you suppose the banks will be saved when the anticipated coming of the second round occurs?
They will be begging people with income of any type to take control of the collapsing finatual bank structure.  Stick to practical commodities.  That will be the next cycle of wealth.  Just do your homework and avoid oil and gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the sitting President decides to spend TARP funds on his pet projects, how do you suppose the banks will be saved when the anticipated coming of the second round occurs?<br />
They will be begging people with income of any type to take control of the collapsing finatual bank structure.  Stick to practical commodities.  That will be the next cycle of wealth.  Just do your homework and avoid oil and gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Six Ways to Boost the Resale Value of Your Home - Even in a Down Market</title>
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		<dc:creator>Six Ways to Boost the Resale Value of Your Home - Even in a Down Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] actually have a real return-on-investment (ROI). As the U.S. housing market slowly revives, and as the federal tax credit of $8,000 for first-time homebuyers is extended, it&#8217;s worth considering the projects you can launch that will boost the value of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low rates, lower home prices.  Don&#039;t buy now and miss the boat for sure.</description>
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		<title>By: sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buying a house now is the worst thing you can do.IT IS OVER RATED.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, people will find MUCH better times to buy a house, at a small fraction of the price in a few years.  Anyone who goes into debt to buy a house now is buying around a secondary high, and will find himself owing hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the house declines to, and be wiped out.  Those who raise cash now, and wait a few years, will be able to pick up incredible bargains when most of $52 trillion in credit has been wiped out.  I&#039;m talking about being able to buy the house you want for over 90% off today&#039;s prices around 2013 or 2014.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, people will find MUCH better times to buy a house, at a small fraction of the price in a few years.  Anyone who goes into debt to buy a house now is buying around a secondary high, and will find himself owing hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the house declines to, and be wiped out.  Those who raise cash now, and wait a few years, will be able to pick up incredible bargains when most of $52 trillion in credit has been wiped out.  I'm talking about being able to buy the house you want for over 90% off today's prices around 2013 or 2014.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Osborne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Canadian I get to look at the American economy in a little bit of a different perspective. It may all be well and true that it looks like home sales are back on the rise. But I donèt believe that its Americans buying them. I know of friends and hear of many others that lots of Canadians are buying up homes in the US and taking advantage of the low costs. I also believe you could bet your coors that the Chinese and many other countrys are doing the same. Face it, the US is going to be bought out !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Canadian I get to look at the American economy in a little bit of a different perspective. It may all be well and true that it looks like home sales are back on the rise. But I donèt believe that its Americans buying them. I know of friends and hear of many others that lots of Canadians are buying up homes in the US and taking advantage of the low costs. I also believe you could bet your coors that the Chinese and many other countrys are doing the same. Face it, the US is going to be bought out !</p>
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		<title>By: Jim White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry this is so long, hope it is worth it!

I noticed that several of you refer to the term &quot;appreciates&quot;.  The lost value in housing, for the most part; was non-tangible.  The reduced amount for which a home may be sold today is market driven, not value driven.

The value of your home is still there, if you don&#039;t believe it check what it would cost to rebuild from a total loss.  Look at your home insurance policy, the &quot;insurance value&quot; the insurance carrier requires you to purchase to be &quot;insured to value&quot;!  Take a look at you property tax assessment, sure some have adjusted, can you sell your home for that amount, probably not.  And banks, if you are concerned about buying post the housing bubble burst, do you think they question loaning in this market, of course they do.

The current problem is in a large part due to the method in which the housing industry conducts housing appraisals.  In fact, that same system was part of the problem with runaway appreciation in areas where there had been excessive demand for available housing.  I believe that with some minor but necessary fundamental changes in the methods used to appraise housing and a program backed by the Federal Government like TRIA for the Insurance Industry and FDIC for banking we can in a relatively short period pull out of this mess.

Keep in mind that the crazy &quot;artificial stimulus&quot; of the Fed&#039;s is a short term band aid compared to getting the housing industry back on its feet.  All else will correct itself, except of course the enormous budget deficit which will continue out of control with the pointless stimulus plan.

What we have experienced is in fact a paper loss.  Why, you cannot pay a reasonable amount for a home if you want to because it will not appraise.  By continually using weakened comparable sales (comps) which currently consist of more involuntary sales than voluntary, which are then formulated to determine the subject home property appraisal.  Consequently, a street or neighborhood having a number of involuntary home sales (foreclosures, relo&#039;s or auctions) will develop increasingly lowered appraisals for the voluntary sales (change of home due to need of larger or smaller home, retirement sale, etc.) as well.  This is the direct opposite of what occurred to create the housing bubble.  There are certainly other factors, but this is a large part of the cause of the reduced market value and inability to re-inflate the home market.  Whats more it is something we can control and replace with a better valuation process.

I put together a paper titled &quot;Home Equity Stabilization Plan&quot; which covers these issues and more.  The cost and implementation are little and short respectively.  The cost to the government is reasonably little and it would all but stop foreclosures with exit strategies for those who need to &quot;buy down&quot; that is, sell for a lesser expensive home without loosing their equity!  What&#039;s more this plan benefits every American whether they purchased a home to benefit from the attractively low interest rates or not.

I tried to get this plan to Congress, in fact, after many failed attempts to get someone&#039;s attention, I had a representative of Ohio Congressman Steve Lautauret (R) looking at it.  He informed me before Congress re-convened last year in the Fall that there was great interest in the plan by someone on Barney Frank&#039;s staff with certain questions as well.  Later, in mid November I was told that since they were now in the minority that they would not be heard on this proposal.  I was sick with disgust.  I had invested months of my free time into this, OUR Country was going into financial turmoil and they were not able to get the floor on this proposal.  May it had been that the Republican&#039;s would prefer to see a Democrat House and Senate fail rather than to then introduce something that may, with adjustments, prevent a financial disaster.

To date, I have not seen anything better introduced!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry this is so long, hope it is worth it!</p>
<p>I noticed that several of you refer to the term "appreciates".  The lost value in housing, for the most part; was non-tangible.  The reduced amount for which a home may be sold today is market driven, not value driven.</p>
<p>The value of your home is still there, if you don't believe it check what it would cost to rebuild from a total loss.  Look at your home insurance policy, the "insurance value" the insurance carrier requires you to purchase to be "insured to value"!  Take a look at you property tax assessment, sure some have adjusted, can you sell your home for that amount, probably not.  And banks, if you are concerned about buying post the housing bubble burst, do you think they question loaning in this market, of course they do.</p>
<p>The current problem is in a large part due to the method in which the housing industry conducts housing appraisals.  In fact, that same system was part of the problem with runaway appreciation in areas where there had been excessive demand for available housing.  I believe that with some minor but necessary fundamental changes in the methods used to appraise housing and a program backed by the Federal Government like TRIA for the Insurance Industry and FDIC for banking we can in a relatively short period pull out of this mess.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the crazy "artificial stimulus" of the Fed's is a short term band aid compared to getting the housing industry back on its feet.  All else will correct itself, except of course the enormous budget deficit which will continue out of control with the pointless stimulus plan.</p>
<p>What we have experienced is in fact a paper loss.  Why, you cannot pay a reasonable amount for a home if you want to because it will not appraise.  By continually using weakened comparable sales (comps) which currently consist of more involuntary sales than voluntary, which are then formulated to determine the subject home property appraisal.  Consequently, a street or neighborhood having a number of involuntary home sales (foreclosures, relo's or auctions) will develop increasingly lowered appraisals for the voluntary sales (change of home due to need of larger or smaller home, retirement sale, etc.) as well.  This is the direct opposite of what occurred to create the housing bubble.  There are certainly other factors, but this is a large part of the cause of the reduced market value and inability to re-inflate the home market.  Whats more it is something we can control and replace with a better valuation process.</p>
<p>I put together a paper titled "Home Equity Stabilization Plan" which covers these issues and more.  The cost and implementation are little and short respectively.  The cost to the government is reasonably little and it would all but stop foreclosures with exit strategies for those who need to "buy down" that is, sell for a lesser expensive home without loosing their equity!  What's more this plan benefits every American whether they purchased a home to benefit from the attractively low interest rates or not.</p>
<p>I tried to get this plan to Congress, in fact, after many failed attempts to get someone's attention, I had a representative of Ohio Congressman Steve Lautauret (R) looking at it.  He informed me before Congress re-convened last year in the Fall that there was great interest in the plan by someone on Barney Frank's staff with certain questions as well.  Later, in mid November I was told that since they were now in the minority that they would not be heard on this proposal.  I was sick with disgust.  I had invested months of my free time into this, OUR Country was going into financial turmoil and they were not able to get the floor on this proposal.  May it had been that the Republican's would prefer to see a Democrat House and Senate fail rather than to then introduce something that may, with adjustments, prevent a financial disaster.</p>
<p>To date, I have not seen anything better introduced!</p>
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		<title>By: ex VRWC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex VRWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no.

Not only are prices not through dropping, not only is more shadow inventory now online but also you will overpay for the houses now, because excess liquidity is the only thing keeping the market afloat.  In other words, you will be bidding against speculators brandishing cheap dollars.  And you won&#039;t get the best price or the true value.

Lock in a lease at dirt cheap rates.  At the worst housing will bump along the bottom.  More likely it goes down another 15-20% at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no.</p>
<p>Not only are prices not through dropping, not only is more shadow inventory now online but also you will overpay for the houses now, because excess liquidity is the only thing keeping the market afloat.  In other words, you will be bidding against speculators brandishing cheap dollars.  And you won't get the best price or the true value.</p>
<p>Lock in a lease at dirt cheap rates.  At the worst housing will bump along the bottom.  More likely it goes down another 15-20% at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Heron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Heron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reader comments are very astute and highlite the dark under-belly of the so-called bottom of the housing market. Thanks to all of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader comments are very astute and highlite the dark under-belly of the so-called bottom of the housing market. Thanks to all of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are several articles around recently touting the same idea. This housing recovery argument would ring more convincingly if the author at least attempted to address the issue of the coming wave of mortgage resets which, along with rising rates that the author himself predicts, would seemingly spell another round of declines next year.  Inflation may or may not be a bailout as well.  If the Fed hyperinflates my new house might well appreciate 12% per year as in the days of old but that is cold comfort if inflation is 15% at the same time.  One way or another, prices must come back into a more normal alignment with incomes &amp; rents. Until then, prices decline- either in nominal or real terms until mean reversion plays out. Today&#039;s incredibly artificial low rates are the only thing the bulls have to hang their hats on in terms of affordability. The rebates are minor and just shift finite future demand into the present.  Kick the can on down the road guys....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several articles around recently touting the same idea. This housing recovery argument would ring more convincingly if the author at least attempted to address the issue of the coming wave of mortgage resets which, along with rising rates that the author himself predicts, would seemingly spell another round of declines next year.  Inflation may or may not be a bailout as well.  If the Fed hyperinflates my new house might well appreciate 12% per year as in the days of old but that is cold comfort if inflation is 15% at the same time.  One way or another, prices must come back into a more normal alignment with incomes &amp; rents. Until then, prices decline- either in nominal or real terms until mean reversion plays out. Today's incredibly artificial low rates are the only thing the bulls have to hang their hats on in terms of affordability. The rebates are minor and just shift finite future demand into the present.  Kick the can on down the road guys&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, 2010 and 2011 will be interesting with all the option arms coming due.  With many people paying only 1 or 2% on those homes, even an interest rate of 5% will make payments balloon.

There is still a big hammer to drop.  In CA, those prices have dropped, but not on the medium to big ticket homes...  those homes have a ways to fall.  And when they do, expect some banks to go under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, 2010 and 2011 will be interesting with all the option arms coming due.  With many people paying only 1 or 2% on those homes, even an interest rate of 5% will make payments balloon.</p>
<p>There is still a big hammer to drop.  In CA, those prices have dropped, but not on the medium to big ticket homes&#8230;  those homes have a ways to fall.  And when they do, expect some banks to go under.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,

I think you discount too much the effect of ending the first time buyer tax credit.  If it has been such a non-factor, why would Congress even be considering extending it?  And why would it be a good idea for anyone to assume more debt right now?  The technical recovery from recession is not going to be enough to jump start the US economy right now, especially as the recovery is primarily government created and does not represent a true recovery.  We are not going recover from stimulus and we are not going back to the credit driven consumer economy, so what will the basis of the recovery be?  Government spending?  Watch for housing to drop off when the tax credit ends.  In tandem with the newer mortgage crisis and housing is going lower.  We are in a deflationary environment right now, worry about inflation in a couple of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>I think you discount too much the effect of ending the first time buyer tax credit.  If it has been such a non-factor, why would Congress even be considering extending it?  And why would it be a good idea for anyone to assume more debt right now?  The technical recovery from recession is not going to be enough to jump start the US economy right now, especially as the recovery is primarily government created and does not represent a true recovery.  We are not going recover from stimulus and we are not going back to the credit driven consumer economy, so what will the basis of the recovery be?  Government spending?  Watch for housing to drop off when the tax credit ends.  In tandem with the newer mortgage crisis and housing is going lower.  We are in a deflationary environment right now, worry about inflation in a couple of years.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Lefcourt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Lefcourt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin:  It seems obvious that the housing market meltdown resulted from two key developments.  Builders created an over-supply of homes in response to demand created by excessively loose credit; too many loans were made to unworthy borrowers.  And supply has been exacerbated by foreclosures stemming from job loss.

Decades of cash have bled from our economy, mostly to China and OPEC and America has sustained massive structural damage.  We can print paper money all we want, but our economy and our housing market won&#039;t get healthy again until we reverse our horrendous foreign trade imbalance.

The two most obvious solutions lie in more domestic energy production and the restoration of domestic manufacturing.  But given the behavior of our elected officials, it seems national bankruptcy and default on our debt seem more likely.  I suspect that that&#039;s what some of them have in mind.  Buy gold, not houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin:  It seems obvious that the housing market meltdown resulted from two key developments.  Builders created an over-supply of homes in response to demand created by excessively loose credit; too many loans were made to unworthy borrowers.  And supply has been exacerbated by foreclosures stemming from job loss.</p>
<p>Decades of cash have bled from our economy, mostly to China and OPEC and America has sustained massive structural damage.  We can print paper money all we want, but our economy and our housing market won't get healthy again until we reverse our horrendous foreign trade imbalance.</p>
<p>The two most obvious solutions lie in more domestic energy production and the restoration of domestic manufacturing.  But given the behavior of our elected officials, it seems national bankruptcy and default on our debt seem more likely.  I suspect that that's what some of them have in mind.  Buy gold, not houses.</p>
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		<title>By: RICO HAMMER</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICO HAMMER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU&#039;RE TOTALLY NUTS; BUY YOUR DAUGHTER A HOUSE &amp; HELP THE ECONOMY OUT &amp; WATCH THE HOUSE SINK ANOTHER 10 TO 20 % DEPENDING WHERE YOU BUY.THE 8K PALES IN COMPARISON TO HOW MUCH MORE HOME PRICES WILL SINK IN 2010 &amp; 2011 AND MAYBE 2012 AS WELL....BANKS STILL HOLDING 100,000&#039;S MORE HOMES ON THEIR TOXIC BOOKS CALLED SHADOW INVENTORY AT THE UPPER PRICE RANGE.NOBODY CAN GET JUMBO MORTGAGES, SO THESE HOUSES ARE SITTING VACANT UNTIL THE BANKS CAN GET THEIR BOOKS IN ORDER WHICH WILL BE YEARS DOWN THE LINE.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU'RE TOTALLY NUTS; BUY YOUR DAUGHTER A HOUSE &amp; HELP THE ECONOMY OUT &amp; WATCH THE HOUSE SINK ANOTHER 10 TO 20 % DEPENDING WHERE YOU BUY.THE 8K PALES IN COMPARISON TO HOW MUCH MORE HOME PRICES WILL SINK IN 2010 &amp; 2011 AND MAYBE 2012 AS WELL&#8230;.BANKS STILL HOLDING 100,000'S MORE HOMES ON THEIR TOXIC BOOKS CALLED SHADOW INVENTORY AT THE UPPER PRICE RANGE.NOBODY CAN GET JUMBO MORTGAGES, SO THESE HOUSES ARE SITTING VACANT UNTIL THE BANKS CAN GET THEIR BOOKS IN ORDER WHICH WILL BE YEARS DOWN THE LINE&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Perry</dc:creator>
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		<description>I disagree as well.  With four mortgages in default for every one in foreclosure, with the banks building huge portfolios of unoccupied homes without foreclosing on them, with a flood of resets pending on Alt-A and Option ARMs, I cannot fathom how anyone could think the real estate market is near a bottom.  Reality (fundamentals) will always trump technical analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree as well.  With four mortgages in default for every one in foreclosure, with the banks building huge portfolios of unoccupied homes without foreclosing on them, with a flood of resets pending on Alt-A and Option ARMs, I cannot fathom how anyone could think the real estate market is near a bottom.  Reality (fundamentals) will always trump technical analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Eusebio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eusebio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. There are a couple of points I&#039;d like to comment on:

You seem to expect that any large declines left will occur only in the worst areas. Actually it may be the &quot;best&quot; areas declining. Vulnerable areas could be those that haven&#039;t declined much yet, where banks are holding foreclosed homes off the market, gambling on a recovery
http://www.bing.com/search?q=banks+holding+foreclosed+homes+off+the+market

The second point is that because mortgages are usually refinanced, buying at the time of low interest rates may not be that advantageous. It is preferable to buy at a lower price and higher rate and then refinance when rates go down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. There are a couple of points I'd like to comment on:</p>
<p>You seem to expect that any large declines left will occur only in the worst areas. Actually it may be the "best" areas declining. Vulnerable areas could be those that haven't declined much yet, where banks are holding foreclosed homes off the market, gambling on a recovery<br />
http://www.bing.com/search?q=banks+holding+foreclosed+homes+off+the+market</p>
<p>The second point is that because mortgages are usually refinanced, buying at the time of low interest rates may not be that advantageous. It is preferable to buy at a lower price and higher rate and then refinance when rates go down.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin,

I usually find your analysis spot on.  I disagree with you here.  People make housing decisions based on monthly payment.  Purchase price is irrelevant.

It matters not whether rates are 5% or 10%, it&#039;s the payment that matters.  Purchase prices will adjust to whatever buyers can afford based on existing rates.

Assuming Congress doesn&#039;t do something stupid like pass the $15k housing bill, housing most decidedly is going lower in the year or two ahead.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,</p>
<p>I usually find your analysis spot on.  I disagree with you here.  People make housing decisions based on monthly payment.  Purchase price is irrelevant.</p>
<p>It matters not whether rates are 5% or 10%, it's the payment that matters.  Purchase prices will adjust to whatever buyers can afford based on existing rates.</p>
<p>Assuming Congress doesn't do something stupid like pass the $15k housing bill, housing most decidedly is going lower in the year or two ahead.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mr Hutchinson points however beneath the hype that housing has bottomed is an ugly little scenario: lending standards are still loose and the low-down payment, high-risk loans being guaranteed by government agencies are setting up the next giant wave of defaults and foreclosures...there is a complete analysis of this by Charles Hugh Smith in a post at:

http://realestateconsumernews.com/financing/setting-up-the-next-leg-down-in-housing/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mr Hutchinson points however beneath the hype that housing has bottomed is an ugly little scenario: lending standards are still loose and the low-down payment, high-risk loans being guaranteed by government agencies are setting up the next giant wave of defaults and foreclosures&#8230;there is a complete analysis of this by Charles Hugh Smith in a post at:</p>
<p>http://realestateconsumernews.com/financing/setting-up-the-next-leg-down-in-housing/</p>
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