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		<title>By: Lefteris</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2009/11/04/u.s.-hyperinflation/comment-page-1/#comment-10151</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefteris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama looks like the child of Andreas Papandreou (20 yrs ago in Greece): promise &quot;change&quot;, print money, inflate the public sector, kill the industry, cause high prices (due to inflation) and doom the country.
The Chinese cannot buy all US debt. Thus the inflation (credit expansion) will definitely cause higher prices.
Deflation is not low prices. Someone explain to me why we&#039; re talking about &quot;no inflationary pressures&quot; when food and energy prices are going up.

In conclusion: Economies based on services and high taxation are high cost of living economies. That&#039;s where the U.S. is heading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama looks like the child of Andreas Papandreou (20 yrs ago in Greece): promise &#8220;change&#8221;, print money, inflate the public sector, kill the industry, cause high prices (due to inflation) and doom the country.<br />
The Chinese cannot buy all US debt. Thus the inflation (credit expansion) will definitely cause higher prices.<br />
Deflation is not low prices. Someone explain to me why we&#8217; re talking about &#8220;no inflationary pressures&#8221; when food and energy prices are going up.</p>
<p>In conclusion: Economies based on services and high taxation are high cost of living economies. That&#8217;s where the U.S. is heading.</p>
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		<title>By: Marek Szczesny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marek Szczesny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see long term improvement in North America at all. The base of strong (country) economy is a strong manufacturing sector. Service is nothing when not provided to other countries. We gave up manufacturing sector to Asiatic countries in late eighties and early nighties instead of solving our problems internally. Nobody can reverse it now. Internet plays a huge role this days. It is harder to take advantage of others. CIA 7 KGB do not play any role in economics internationally any more. The trouble is unavoidable without strong manufacturing sector!!! 
We just have to accept it. Old days the wars were solving economic problems of strong countries in trouble. 
We just had simply the best times of our lives.
Marek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see long term improvement in North America at all. The base of strong (country) economy is a strong manufacturing sector. Service is nothing when not provided to other countries. We gave up manufacturing sector to Asiatic countries in late eighties and early nighties instead of solving our problems internally. Nobody can reverse it now. Internet plays a huge role this days. It is harder to take advantage of others. CIA 7 KGB do not play any role in economics internationally any more. The trouble is unavoidable without strong manufacturing sector!!!<br />
We just have to accept it. Old days the wars were solving economic problems of strong countries in trouble.<br />
We just had simply the best times of our lives.<br />
Marek</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you hit the nail on the head, I can&#039;t understand way some many people are to what is really been going on, and the facts. Even with facts and proof. They don&#039;t believe or are blind. All i can see and say is 80% of people are brainwash controled, and hide in disney land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you hit the nail on the head, I can&#8217;t understand way some many people are to what is really been going on, and the facts. Even with facts and proof. They don&#8217;t believe or are blind. All i can see and say is 80% of people are brainwash controled, and hide in disney land.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBama2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBama2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been a debtor nation since the Revolutionary War !!
So. you have to choose Hamiltonian policies or Jeffersonian policies
&lt;Hamilton historian (B.O.) now occupies the Whitehouse?
The 20% wealthy/elite is more like 5% of the population.
Inflation is the cure for our present economic demise....except,
double digit inflation will be the  U.S. economy demise as it is unmanageable by all. Employment, income, hires always trails any economic business upturn.  BETTER THAN SOCIALISM IS CAPITALISM.  If that $2 trillion &quot;stimulus&quot; plan was substituted with the NoBAMA stimulus plan-we would not have been here/now.  NoBAMA Stimulus Plan = $50k to each person who leaves the workforce, or social security plan to start a business.
This business would have SBA 90% finance = $500k and MUST
employ 3 non-owner people.  Hence, 2 million = 6 million employed !!  ALL PAYING TAXES !!!! Economy stimulated, unemployment reduced, social security re-balanced. Bankers happy making loans again.  CAPITALISM IS THE ANSWER!!
Thats the way this old guy sees it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been a debtor nation since the Revolutionary War !!<br />
So. you have to choose Hamiltonian policies or Jeffersonian policies<br />
&lt;Hamilton historian (B.O.) now occupies the Whitehouse?<br />
The 20% wealthy/elite is more like 5% of the population.<br />
Inflation is the cure for our present economic demise&#8230;.except,<br />
double digit inflation will be the  U.S. economy demise as it is unmanageable by all. Employment, income, hires always trails any economic business upturn.  BETTER THAN SOCIALISM IS CAPITALISM.  If that $2 trillion &quot;stimulus&quot; plan was substituted with the NoBAMA stimulus plan-we would not have been here/now.  NoBAMA Stimulus Plan = $50k to each person who leaves the workforce, or social security plan to start a business.<br />
This business would have SBA 90% finance = $500k and MUST<br />
employ 3 non-owner people.  Hence, 2 million = 6 million employed !!  ALL PAYING TAXES !!!! Economy stimulated, unemployment reduced, social security re-balanced. Bankers happy making loans again.  CAPITALISM IS THE ANSWER!!<br />
Thats the way this old guy sees it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vivianclare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivianclare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see some real employment numbers, such as:

Out of all tax returns submitted by Americans, deduct all 1099s, deduct all government workers (police, politicians, teachers, postal workers, etc.), then deduct all those working in health care. Now, how many people are left? These are the folks actually &quot;producing&quot; productivity.  I&#039;m curious to see what the percentage is. That&#039;s the number of actual jobs you have. As the cost of insurance and insurance mandates &amp; regulations skyrockets, w-2 jobs decrease drastically, and there is strong disincentive to have older employees. Once one&#039;s age is over 50, you wouldn&#039;t believe what health insurance costs.

I totally do not trust our unemployment statistics. My husband is a 1099, and we pay all medical insurance with after-tax dollars because of that fact. However, for purposes of losing his unemployment benefits, he was considered &quot;employed&quot;. They may have considered him employed, but he has years with about zero income. However, I&#039;m sure he was included in the statistics as an employed person. Big deal. Many jobs these days are commission only, and very low paying. To brag that an economy is going well because unemployment has decreased is not painting an accurate picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see some real employment numbers, such as:</p>
<p>Out of all tax returns submitted by Americans, deduct all 1099s, deduct all government workers (police, politicians, teachers, postal workers, etc.), then deduct all those working in health care. Now, how many people are left? These are the folks actually &#8220;producing&#8221; productivity.  I&#8217;m curious to see what the percentage is. That&#8217;s the number of actual jobs you have. As the cost of insurance and insurance mandates &amp; regulations skyrockets, w-2 jobs decrease drastically, and there is strong disincentive to have older employees. Once one&#8217;s age is over 50, you wouldn&#8217;t believe what health insurance costs.</p>
<p>I totally do not trust our unemployment statistics. My husband is a 1099, and we pay all medical insurance with after-tax dollars because of that fact. However, for purposes of losing his unemployment benefits, he was considered &#8220;employed&#8221;. They may have considered him employed, but he has years with about zero income. However, I&#8217;m sure he was included in the statistics as an employed person. Big deal. Many jobs these days are commission only, and very low paying. To brag that an economy is going well because unemployment has decreased is not painting an accurate picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tannim

An A+ for your analysis. Great.</description>
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<p>An A+ for your analysis. Great.</p>
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		<title>By: erich kellner</title>
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		<dc:creator>erich kellner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While agreeing with all the facts cited in the article I am much less panicked about the prospects of hyper-inflation. For one, China isn&#039;t going to revalue the yuan by 60% over-night but allowing for a gradual adjustment over time.  Domestic production , i.e. jobs, would take up the slack here. There&#039;ll be a new equilibrium in world commerce. The dollar should rise relative to other currencies, such as the Euro and Yen etc.
The Fed will mop up the excess liquidity. The only worrysome item in my view is unchecked spend and tax policies pursued by the present administration that may kill the economic recovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While agreeing with all the facts cited in the article I am much less panicked about the prospects of hyper-inflation. For one, China isn&#8217;t going to revalue the yuan by 60% over-night but allowing for a gradual adjustment over time.  Domestic production , i.e. jobs, would take up the slack here. There&#8217;ll be a new equilibrium in world commerce. The dollar should rise relative to other currencies, such as the Euro and Yen etc.<br />
The Fed will mop up the excess liquidity. The only worrysome item in my view is unchecked spend and tax policies pursued by the present administration that may kill the economic recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Tannim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tannim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope all around.

First, the core inflation numbers are inaccurate.  Real Inflation is mostly hidden right now and is at about 17%, not the visible core stuff,

Second, while it is true that banks are hoarding cash, they never should have gotten the bailouts in the first place--if anybody, the taxpayers should have.  All the hoarding cash does is create a slow rise to the hyperinflation instead of a fast jump, but it will happen nonetheless.  We&#039;re currently in the saddle of a double-dip recession, but nobody in DC dares admit it for political reasons.  The bailouts were a horrible idea, and they should not have been rewarded for bad business practices.

Third, China can continue to absorb inflation as long as they have a trade deficit in their favor, which is why their cheap crap continues to be imported and be cheap.  Tariffs will not improve that either.  When the trade deficit goes away, they stop importing our inflation, and we are totally screwed.  China has us over a barrel, dictating trade policy to us based on our debt, and the consumer and worker suffers with the widget economy going out of business.  But if we try to restore the widget economy and narrow the gap, our debt comes home to roost.  This is why deficit and debt spending has been so much of a problem!

Fourth, consumers are cutting back but not cutting debt as the cutbacks are going back into necessities, because those prices are going up--that slow rise to hyperinflation mentioned above.  Had the consumers gotten the bailout directly, instead of the banks, their debts would be reduced, which hurts the inflated paper economy, but it would have created more consumer confidence and investment in the widget and service economies.  But doing that would bring back the issues of deficit spending explained above.

Fifth, employment cutbacks are happening from rising costs in health care and unemployment insurance premiums while wages stagnate, not to mention the slow rise in costs of supplies and materials to actually produce anything.

It all comes back to the deficit spending and out-of-control debt coming back to roost, and all attempts to minimize the pain will be ineffective.  That&#039;s why the stimulus didn&#039;t work--you can&#039;t stop a tide rolling in by spraying it with a garden hose the other direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope all around.</p>
<p>First, the core inflation numbers are inaccurate.  Real Inflation is mostly hidden right now and is at about 17%, not the visible core stuff,</p>
<p>Second, while it is true that banks are hoarding cash, they never should have gotten the bailouts in the first place&#8211;if anybody, the taxpayers should have.  All the hoarding cash does is create a slow rise to the hyperinflation instead of a fast jump, but it will happen nonetheless.  We&#8217;re currently in the saddle of a double-dip recession, but nobody in DC dares admit it for political reasons.  The bailouts were a horrible idea, and they should not have been rewarded for bad business practices.</p>
<p>Third, China can continue to absorb inflation as long as they have a trade deficit in their favor, which is why their cheap crap continues to be imported and be cheap.  Tariffs will not improve that either.  When the trade deficit goes away, they stop importing our inflation, and we are totally screwed.  China has us over a barrel, dictating trade policy to us based on our debt, and the consumer and worker suffers with the widget economy going out of business.  But if we try to restore the widget economy and narrow the gap, our debt comes home to roost.  This is why deficit and debt spending has been so much of a problem!</p>
<p>Fourth, consumers are cutting back but not cutting debt as the cutbacks are going back into necessities, because those prices are going up&#8211;that slow rise to hyperinflation mentioned above.  Had the consumers gotten the bailout directly, instead of the banks, their debts would be reduced, which hurts the inflated paper economy, but it would have created more consumer confidence and investment in the widget and service economies.  But doing that would bring back the issues of deficit spending explained above.</p>
<p>Fifth, employment cutbacks are happening from rising costs in health care and unemployment insurance premiums while wages stagnate, not to mention the slow rise in costs of supplies and materials to actually produce anything.</p>
<p>It all comes back to the deficit spending and out-of-control debt coming back to roost, and all attempts to minimize the pain will be ineffective.  That&#8217;s why the stimulus didn&#8217;t work&#8211;you can&#8217;t stop a tide rolling in by spraying it with a garden hose the other direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoken like a true Keynesian, James.</description>
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		<title>By: Don Fishgrab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Fishgrab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We,ve all heard the saying, &quot;money doesn&#039;t grow on trees.&quot;  Some of the economists and politicians appear to think it does.  Suggestions to accelerate retirement rates by moving more to Social security ignore the fact that there is already a problem with a lack of funding.  An economist stated that the US is big enough to fund whatever they want, and we should go ahead and do that.  If he is right, Why do they need to raise taxes?  They should be able to eliminate them instead.

Taxes remove money from the economy, weakening it.  Government spending does not add new money, it only replaces some of what was removed.  Government projects and spending cannot fund a recovery.

Tax reductions have nearly always been in the form of a tax rebate.  They are a temporary injection of money into the economy.  Most tax rebates have been insignificant to those recieving it, rarely even as much as a weeks pay, and has cost more than the people recieved to distribute.  A long term reduction in taxes would have more impact, because it would not need to be returned.  I do not see politicians or economists advocating such changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We,ve all heard the saying, &#8220;money doesn&#8217;t grow on trees.&#8221;  Some of the economists and politicians appear to think it does.  Suggestions to accelerate retirement rates by moving more to Social security ignore the fact that there is already a problem with a lack of funding.  An economist stated that the US is big enough to fund whatever they want, and we should go ahead and do that.  If he is right, Why do they need to raise taxes?  They should be able to eliminate them instead.</p>
<p>Taxes remove money from the economy, weakening it.  Government spending does not add new money, it only replaces some of what was removed.  Government projects and spending cannot fund a recovery.</p>
<p>Tax reductions have nearly always been in the form of a tax rebate.  They are a temporary injection of money into the economy.  Most tax rebates have been insignificant to those recieving it, rarely even as much as a weeks pay, and has cost more than the people recieved to distribute.  A long term reduction in taxes would have more impact, because it would not need to be returned.  I do not see politicians or economists advocating such changes.</p>
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