all i can say is neither of us knew anything about human nature when we thought these thoughts.

my excuse is i was spending other people's money…..a drug in itself.

i sure hope u and obama and the rest will grow up before its too late,tho for most things,it already is.

We just can't give up squeaking if we want things to change. We have to be bold and vocal.

don´t waste your time with partisan politics. it´s a distraction propagated by the media.

Clinton´s NAFTA and repeal of the Glass Steagall Act did as much damage to the US as Bush´s bogus war on terror. the Republicans under Bush have wasted a generations worth of economic security to make the likes of Brown Root, Carlysle Group and Haliburton significantly richer.

jmho of course.

We should all forward the link to our family members. I think like the first 80 year old post (Van Collmer), probably because I am not far behind him. However I am alone in my very large family that thinks this way. They have all been proselytized by our educators and media to buy into the welfare state. Little do they understand what we have fought and died for. Our schools are not teaching it. We are slowly becoming what we have defeated, and the socialists are winning. It is an easy sell, the idea that government will take care of you.

The real concern: what will the phoenix be like?

Many proclaim to value freedom, but do not touch my entitlment. The truth is that SS and Medicare are broke. It does not matter that many have paid in over their lifetime, it still is broke. There is no way to right this wrong.

It is difficult to change the government and the mindset of a nation. But, this has to occur for there to be real change. Many today do not know which way to go, so they will take the path of least resistence, which will lead to the same failed conclusion.

Taking back this country will mean quickly ending entitlments. It will mean completely re-structuring the tax system. It will mean having an Constitutional Convention in order to finally define General Welfare. It will mean abolishing the Federal Reserve.

It will mean many loosing their status quo and families boarding together. It will mean churches, individuals and charities will have to step up. It will mean alot of people will not get the healthcare they want and need. There is no way to know just how this will look in real life as it happens, but getting back to the principles and fundamentals that forged this country will not be easy at all.

I see armageddon before this will occur.

The answer is nobody.

But the Fed will legally counterfeit these funds (just print money basically) at zero cost, money the citizenry will be expected to pay back by creating real value through work and then pay the counterfeit debt back in full, with huge amounts of interest. If this odious debt is immorally and, according to the U.S. constitution, illegally imposed on the citizenry (and it eats up at least half of all spending), then clearly the solution is to Kill the Fed.

Since the Fed prints money out of thin air, so can the government, it's the productive potential of the citizenry that backs the value of the money after all. The gold standard is just another scheme for the rich to centralize wealth (another major problem), but a return to debt-free constitutional money, under which the young U.S.A. flourished, would take a huge amount of financial pressure off.

Inflation could then be totally controlled by mandating caps on dollars per person, and ending fractional reserve lending, the process whereby banks lend out 10-20 times more money than they actually have (more legalized counterfeiting). Either everyone should be allowed to lend money that doesn't exist, or nobody can. Only one of those ways controls inflation.

And then they have to be part of the "herd" in life as to not be left out. Who cares if they have to sign on the doted line for things they can't pay for. Long as they look "good" for the neighbors and fellow workers, that's all that matters.

People have their head up their nrear end. I used to think what can I do to help ANYONE. Now I say who cares. I'm not willing to help ANY phony American that is rude and just wants to show how many material things they can own in their lifetime.

I say what's coming for MAericans is good enough for them. Let them suffer for all their stupidity. And illegal alliens? You've got to be kidding. Go back less than 100 years, and most likely were are ALL illegal. Except for the Indians that we stole all the land from.

At least the current illegal are willing to work. If the lazy Americans were willing to do the job, they wouldn't waste their time coming here. Look at the obesity in this country. Notihing but a bunch of fat lazy pigs with no manners and owning things they can't pay for. This ought to be a real eye opener for many.

Good luck people

As for central banking, it matters not if an independent franchise as in the US or government
owned as in Canada. The fiat debt issuance is simply a means to secure the controlling wealth
of the masses and subject them to totalitarian rule. Future generation bondage to debt is
meaningless as the fiat becomes worthless, it's loss and seizure of personal property that will lead to slavery and genocide, another dark ages I fear.

Stop military buildup. If every nation just stopped, leave the status quo, became transparent to all other nations to avoid cheeting, trillions would be saved every year.

Stop the insane financial industry, the non productive biggest trough feeders, the mutual funds, the money managers, the mind boggling avenues of bleeding people of their money as they hope the newest thing will earn them a greater return. Stop things like currency trading. A stoppage of investment money flowing in would put the millions of white collar non productive financiers on the bread line, where they will seek real jobs, become productive members of society.

Stop the drug trade. Of course it can be done. There are countries where drug trade is almost completly non exsistant. Its called Extreme Punishment. These worst of criminals will destroy your family in the most unconsionable way. They will take your pre teen daughter to sell for profit, they will hook your son until he becomes a monster and turns on you, for profit. They have no conscience, drug use has taken away any normal reasoning. So why would you choose to be soft on them. It is well recognized that 95% of all crime is drug related, how many more billions would that save anually. The spinoff would be that the legal industry, the police, the lawyers and judges, all the support staff, the prisons, etc. would become a tiny fraction of the industry it is today. That would put countless more trough feeders into productive society.

Stop handing out programs for votes. I live in Canada. Our current government adopted a policy, making it mandatory to run a surplus budget. Absolutely no deficit. This had to be abandoned when we hit this era of what is called economic stimulation. But did it. If we put all nations on equal footing, no stimulus spending, ride out the tough times, always run a surplus, it will be done in the future when we realize the error of our ways and are ready to make these tough choices.

Stop harvesting rainforests.

Stop polluting.

Start mandatory recycling programs. Of course we already have this. I mean on a massive, global scale. Our landfills are brimming, and our waste is sickening.

Set up a global currency, everyone issued a card, or an embeded chip, or an eye scan, or whatever, starting from grade school. No cash, again the impact on crime would be enormous, further cutting costs.

Make tobacco products illegal.

Make the purchasing of alcohol a process where your financial situation, along with your family obligations, only allows you the purchase if it is not detrimental to you or anyone else.

Give up some rights in order to help police get tough on crime. Should you really care about being searched if you have nothing to hide. Let the legal system break down a few doors of the inocent, in their search for the criminal.

Tax the filthy rich to the extreme. If anyone already of billionaire status, bringing in more countless millions every year, has a problem with that, consider yourself inhuman.

Promote tourism. Give the middle class the ability to enjoy what only the rich can now. For example, build more cruise ships and drop prices drastically, make it a globally affordable reward for the life of the conservative middle class majority.

Take away the 1 % of the world owning 90 % of its wealth. Easily done when we are ready to make this happen.

Stop the manufacturing and selling of the multitude of crap trinkets, so the idiots of the world cannot bring home another ornament at the cost of feeding their children.

Shrink government. It is insane the number of beaurocrats out there feeding off of us.

Put a cap on all income. At todays prices 10 million a year is enough for anyone. That would free up more hundreds of millions. Does Tiger Woods really need 100 million a year. Just tax him at 95 % anything over 10.

Revolutionize the auto industry. It appears there are cars now running on water. Pour money into researching and developing this. Make manufacturers produce this technology.

Really reform health care. Have you been inside an emergency room lately. Twelve hour wait times while all the staff is standing around socializing. Make them accountable. Anyone waiting is an emergency, never mind current proceedure and administer to that person now, there will be down times when you can catch upi on that paper work and finish stories to your co-workers. Stop the drug companys monopolizing the market for ridiculous billions in profit.

All of this and more would turn our planet into a non debt garden of eden for everyone, almost overnight. But it will not happen, not yet anyway. We are still too soon out of the uncivilized beast we were just a few millenia ago. We are, plain and simply put, just too stupid for our own good right now.
But there is hope, for our offspring and theirs, as we are of course capable of making decisions that better our life…..when we are ready.

Better that a person tries to do his individual best and considers governmental actions to be close to natural disasters like earthquakes and hurricanes.