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	<title>Comments on: The End of the Cap-and-Trade Masquerade Opens New Doors For Investors</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Stocks: OGE Energy Corp. (NYSE: OGE) Is Electrifying Investors' Portfolios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Stocks: OGE Energy Corp. (NYSE: OGE) Is Electrifying Investors' Portfolios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] equity investors, especially since utility companies are being revalued in the wake of the death of cap-and-trade legislation.  [Editor&#039;s Note: Money Morning Contributing Writer Jon D. Markman has a unique view of both the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lance Lyons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oil and natural gas are the natural resources that represent power to those who control their reserves.  When it comes to governments, there will always be schemes developed to take control of the power that comes with manipulation of the oil and gas interests.  The hoax of man-made global warming is the perfect scheme in that most everyone living on earth has an interest in protecting the earth from destruction. 

The fact that the constituents in the atmosphere is and has always been over 99% non-greenhouse gas (nitrogen and oxygen) and less than 1% greenhouse gas, makes one scratch their head as to the logic that there is a correlation between carbon dioxide emissions and temperature rise.  The predominant greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are approximately: water vapor and clouds ~ 8,000 ppm; carbon dioxide ~380 ppm; methane ~ 1,745 ppb; nitrous oxide ~ 314 ppb; and fluorinated gases ~ 533 ppt.

Carbon dioxide makes up only 0.038% of all the atmospheric constituents even though the natural resources we are all so dependent upon for energy and transportation in the US and worldwide all emit carbon dioxide during combustion.  Interestingly, other than water vapor, carbon dioxide is also the most, vitally important greenhouse gas that makes life on earth possible.  Plants and trees absorb carbon dioxide and produce oxygen through photosynthesis and humans breath in oxygen and exhale ~40,000 ppm of carbon dioxide.  One can then argue that curtailing carbon dioxide emissions will have consequences to life.
 
If the Senate passes the cap and trade bill, the scheme will have the consequences of taxing the poorest and the richest with costly increases to food, gasoline and electricity.  It likewise will make the United States less competitive and ever more dependent upon dependent upon oil and gas imports.  Using climate change as if it were a man-made crisis, the scheme punishes everyone who produces and uses energy in an effort to curtail its use, but actually accomplishes nothing to reduce greenhouse gas worldwide.  Afterall, the citizenship in the United States only represents ~4% of the world population.  

As we are now discovering, the IPCC has been consistently wrong on its forecasts for ice melt, polar bear extinction, higher sea levels, etc.  Though we continue to hear arguments to the contrary as can be seen from some of the comments to this article, the global temperatures have likely been cooling since 1998 and global temperatures were actually hotter in the 1930s.  The earth has experienced multiple times of severe temperature swings (i.e. the ice age) that had nothing to do with civilized development. The glacial melting could just as likely be a &quot;normal&quot; cycle, albeit not one civilized man has yet to witness (or document).  The bottom line - just because you can connect some dots does not mean that they are related or dependent.  Our atmospheric system is huge; it does in fact cycle; it warms and it cools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil and natural gas are the natural resources that represent power to those who control their reserves.  When it comes to governments, there will always be schemes developed to take control of the power that comes with manipulation of the oil and gas interests.  The hoax of man-made global warming is the perfect scheme in that most everyone living on earth has an interest in protecting the earth from destruction. </p>
<p>The fact that the constituents in the atmosphere is and has always been over 99% non-greenhouse gas (nitrogen and oxygen) and less than 1% greenhouse gas, makes one scratch their head as to the logic that there is a correlation between carbon dioxide emissions and temperature rise.  The predominant greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are approximately: water vapor and clouds ~ 8,000 ppm; carbon dioxide ~380 ppm; methane ~ 1,745 ppb; nitrous oxide ~ 314 ppb; and fluorinated gases ~ 533 ppt.</p>
<p>Carbon dioxide makes up only 0.038% of all the atmospheric constituents even though the natural resources we are all so dependent upon for energy and transportation in the US and worldwide all emit carbon dioxide during combustion.  Interestingly, other than water vapor, carbon dioxide is also the most, vitally important greenhouse gas that makes life on earth possible.  Plants and trees absorb carbon dioxide and produce oxygen through photosynthesis and humans breath in oxygen and exhale ~40,000 ppm of carbon dioxide.  One can then argue that curtailing carbon dioxide emissions will have consequences to life.</p>
<p>If the Senate passes the cap and trade bill, the scheme will have the consequences of taxing the poorest and the richest with costly increases to food, gasoline and electricity.  It likewise will make the United States less competitive and ever more dependent upon dependent upon oil and gas imports.  Using climate change as if it were a man-made crisis, the scheme punishes everyone who produces and uses energy in an effort to curtail its use, but actually accomplishes nothing to reduce greenhouse gas worldwide.  Afterall, the citizenship in the United States only represents ~4% of the world population.  </p>
<p>As we are now discovering, the IPCC has been consistently wrong on its forecasts for ice melt, polar bear extinction, higher sea levels, etc.  Though we continue to hear arguments to the contrary as can be seen from some of the comments to this article, the global temperatures have likely been cooling since 1998 and global temperatures were actually hotter in the 1930s.  The earth has experienced multiple times of severe temperature swings (i.e. the ice age) that had nothing to do with civilized development. The glacial melting could just as likely be a "normal" cycle, albeit not one civilized man has yet to witness (or document).  The bottom line &#8211; just because you can connect some dots does not mean that they are related or dependent.  Our atmospheric system is huge; it does in fact cycle; it warms and it cools.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian McClintock</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2010/07/30/cap-and-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-24761</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian McClintock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin makes the claim &quot;There is a certain amount of well-attested evidence for climate change, and the suggested mechanism by which excess carbon dioxide might produce global warming is a plausible one.&quot;

I thought so too until I took the trouble to read the IPCC Reports and other material. The only &#039;evidence&#039; they can offer is circumstantial. Rising temperatures and melting ice, etc is very good evidence that the globe has warmed but says nothing about the cause. The IPCC computer models are incapable of predicting future climate, they even admit this themselves.

The staggering fact is, there is not one piece of empirical evidence indicating rising man-induced greenhouse gasses are the principle cause of the warming. If there was we would have all heard about it ad nausium by now.

The world has built in mechanisms that act to vent off excess heat (as satelite data verifies) and variable cloud cover, the largest single determinant of global temperatures, and other factors, act to maintain Earthly temperatures within reasonable bounds.

While minor gasses like CO2 do influence temperatures, there is convincing evidence that this is so small as to be impossible to identify amongst the &#039;noise&#039; of the many other more important factors.

Any suggestion therefore that we would be somehow better off with the introduction of a carbon tax is ill-founded. It would only act to progressively increase costs, destroy competitiveness and viability, increase unemployment, etc.

Any investment based on such a poor assumption would likely prove to be bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin makes the claim "There is a certain amount of well-attested evidence for climate change, and the suggested mechanism by which excess carbon dioxide might produce global warming is a plausible one."</p>
<p>I thought so too until I took the trouble to read the IPCC Reports and other material. The only 'evidence' they can offer is circumstantial. Rising temperatures and melting ice, etc is very good evidence that the globe has warmed but says nothing about the cause. The IPCC computer models are incapable of predicting future climate, they even admit this themselves.</p>
<p>The staggering fact is, there is not one piece of empirical evidence indicating rising man-induced greenhouse gasses are the principle cause of the warming. If there was we would have all heard about it ad nausium by now.</p>
<p>The world has built in mechanisms that act to vent off excess heat (as satelite data verifies) and variable cloud cover, the largest single determinant of global temperatures, and other factors, act to maintain Earthly temperatures within reasonable bounds.</p>
<p>While minor gasses like CO2 do influence temperatures, there is convincing evidence that this is so small as to be impossible to identify amongst the 'noise' of the many other more important factors.</p>
<p>Any suggestion therefore that we would be somehow better off with the introduction of a carbon tax is ill-founded. It would only act to progressively increase costs, destroy competitiveness and viability, increase unemployment, etc.</p>
<p>Any investment based on such a poor assumption would likely prove to be bad.</p>
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		<title>By: joe crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small comfort to polar bears left to tread water until ice reforms in arctic. If you believe global warming is not happening, I have some lovely beachfront property in central Texas i would like to sell to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small comfort to polar bears left to tread water until ice reforms in arctic. If you believe global warming is not happening, I have some lovely beachfront property in central Texas i would like to sell to you.</p>
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		<title>By: hub</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2010/07/30/cap-and-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-24731</link>
		<dc:creator>hub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First up: carbon dioxide has fluctuated considerably for as long as the planet has existed. That&#039;s what results from ice core samples have been showing for some time - if you&#039;d bother to check. Each year any number of volcanoes spew out more co2 than than all of humanity together - good ones like Pinatubo or St. Helen will add even more!
And how will a tax, no matter how small (?!?), keep that from happening?? Will a tax enable any of the useless, stupid politicians, or their aparatchiks, to prevent &#039;global climate change&#039;? Or they take the tax money and &#039;... a carbon tax could go a long way to reducing the U.S. budget deficit.&#039; 
Hey, Hutchinson, what planet have you been living on ... or is it something you&#039;re smoking? 
Those morons will take that money and BORROW ANOTHER DOLLAR FOR EACH ONE THEY STEAL!!! ... AND BOONDOGGLE IT AWAY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First up: carbon dioxide has fluctuated considerably for as long as the planet has existed. That's what results from ice core samples have been showing for some time &#8211; if you'd bother to check. Each year any number of volcanoes spew out more co2 than than all of humanity together &#8211; good ones like Pinatubo or St. Helen will add even more!<br />
And how will a tax, no matter how small (?!?), keep that from happening?? Will a tax enable any of the useless, stupid politicians, or their aparatchiks, to prevent 'global climate change'? Or they take the tax money and '&#8230; a carbon tax could go a long way to reducing the U.S. budget deficit.'<br />
Hey, Hutchinson, what planet have you been living on &#8230; or is it something you're smoking?<br />
Those morons will take that money and BORROW ANOTHER DOLLAR FOR EACH ONE THEY STEAL!!! &#8230; AND BOONDOGGLE IT AWAY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Gary W. Lea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Gary W. Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent a detailed response 30 minutes ago but it is not displayed. What happened to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent a detailed response 30 minutes ago but it is not displayed. What happened to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Gary W. Lea</title>
		<link>http://moneymorning.com/2010/07/30/cap-and-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-24723</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Gary W. Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The claim that &quot;many of the scientists involved in climate-change research had tweaked the data to improve their case&quot; is erroneous and unfortunately plays into the hands of climate change deniers. The original concern involved critics&#039; charges that climate scientists at East Anglia University&#039;s Climate Research Unit had mishandled climate data and engaged in scientific misconduct. There has never been any concern that &quot;many&quot; of the thousands of climate researchers tweaked their data as Mr. Hitchinson seems to imply. Even then, the CRU matter was reviewed and the findings generally exonerating it widely reported in the news three months ago. At the same time the 22,000 member Geological Society of America released a statement confirming global warming with humans a major factor, and on May 7, 2010, 255 members of The National Academy of Science condemned the politically based assaults on climate researchers. 

Global warming with human activity a primary contributor continues to be scientifically supported and, as Mr. Hutchinson advises, efforts to combat it will provide investment opportunities - but our investments must be informed by the best scientific information available. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The claim that "many of the scientists involved in climate-change research had tweaked the data to improve their case" is erroneous and unfortunately plays into the hands of climate change deniers. The original concern involved critics' charges that climate scientists at East Anglia University's Climate Research Unit had mishandled climate data and engaged in scientific misconduct. There has never been any concern that "many" of the thousands of climate researchers tweaked their data as Mr. Hitchinson seems to imply. Even then, the CRU matter was reviewed and the findings generally exonerating it widely reported in the news three months ago. At the same time the 22,000 member Geological Society of America released a statement confirming global warming with humans a major factor, and on May 7, 2010, 255 members of The National Academy of Science condemned the politically based assaults on climate researchers. </p>
<p>Global warming with human activity a primary contributor continues to be scientifically supported and, as Mr. Hutchinson advises, efforts to combat it will provide investment opportunities &#8211; but our investments must be informed by the best scientific information available.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Mizla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Mizla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your prediction of a 2 degree (c) rise in global temperatures by  2100 can only be accomplished if we limit the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere  to 450ppm- at the current rate of over 2ppm a year (and the current CO2 level at around 391ppm) This will not be possible.

We should see a global rise of 2 degrees by 2050 easily. If we continue to have unrestricted CO2 emissions till 2050- the rise in global temperatures will likely exceed 3 degrees by the 2090s  by more then a 50/50 possibility.

A rise of 3 degrees will in fact have societal and economic ramifications that could be considered bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your prediction of a 2 degree (c) rise in global temperatures by  2100 can only be accomplished if we limit the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere  to 450ppm- at the current rate of over 2ppm a year (and the current CO2 level at around 391ppm) This will not be possible.</p>
<p>We should see a global rise of 2 degrees by 2050 easily. If we continue to have unrestricted CO2 emissions till 2050- the rise in global temperatures will likely exceed 3 degrees by the 2090s  by more then a 50/50 possibility.</p>
<p>A rise of 3 degrees will in fact have societal and economic ramifications that could be considered bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Mizla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Mizla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your essay on climate change that no more then a 2 degree Celsius rise in global temperatures assumes we have no more then a 400ppm amount of CO2 in the Atmosphere by centuries end.

We currently stand at around 392ppm- and rising at the rate of over 2ppm a year. We should pass  400ppm in 2015, and around 450ppm by as early as 2030 with unrestricted CO2.

We will easily pass the 2 degree threshold by mid century or sooner- and at this point there is a 50/50 chance of 3 degrees or more by the 2090s.

This therefore makes your predictions incorrect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your essay on climate change that no more then a 2 degree Celsius rise in global temperatures assumes we have no more then a 400ppm amount of CO2 in the Atmosphere by centuries end.</p>
<p>We currently stand at around 392ppm- and rising at the rate of over 2ppm a year. We should pass  400ppm in 2015, and around 450ppm by as early as 2030 with unrestricted CO2.</p>
<p>We will easily pass the 2 degree threshold by mid century or sooner- and at this point there is a 50/50 chance of 3 degrees or more by the 2090s.</p>
<p>This therefore makes your predictions incorrect.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really have difficulty entrusting my wealth to someone whe believes that a trace atmospheric gas (less than 1/3 of 1%) and what I exhale and plants use for existence is going to destroy the planet.  what level of CO2 would you like to get down to before you destroy all plant life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have difficulty entrusting my wealth to someone whe believes that a trace atmospheric gas (less than 1/3 of 1%) and what I exhale and plants use for existence is going to destroy the planet.  what level of CO2 would you like to get down to before you destroy all plant life?</p>
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