I put that question to Real Asset Returns Editor Peter Krauth last week.
You see, there's a lot of interest in investing in gold right now. Or perhaps I should say that there's a lot of interest in what gold might do.
And you can certainly understand why.
From its November 2008 market lows, the SPDR Gold Trust (NYSE: GLD) - the No. 1 proxy for the "yellow metal" - rose as much as 158%, reaching its peak in September 2011. But it's down about 13% since that time (though it's up 5% year to date), and a lot of folks are wondering what gold is worth, and how they should play it.
Wall Street has grown more tepid on gold, with many of the investment banks ratcheting back just a bit on their target prices. But most also see prices heading up to and beyond the $2,000 level in 2013, meaning they see a potential gain of 22% or better.
Peter's target price is a bit more aggressive: He sees gold trading as high as $2,200 an ounce - 34% above current prices in the $1,640 range.
I've worked with Peter for several years now, and admire the way he works.
He based himself in resource-rich Canada in order to be closer to the many companies that he covers. And he's made a number of truly superb market calls: In September 2010, for instance, when silver was trading at $19 an ounce, Peter told investors the metal was a "Buy" - and we then watched it soar to a high of $48 (a 153% windfall).
So when I decided to bring you the latest insights on gold - and some recommendations, as well - I went to Peter.
Insights on Investing in Gold
His answer: Physical bullion remains a top play; the physical metal is a vehicle for profit, and will serve as an excellent hedge against inflation and the many problems that remain in both the global and domestic U.S. economies.But gold miners are so cheap that they, too, deserve a look.
Well, at least some of them do.
"Bill, you'll see statements from some of Wall Street's big guns that gold miners are cheap right now," Peter told me during a telephone chat last week. "And that's true. They are cheap on a numerical [fundamental] basis, especially compared with historical valuations. But gold miners are cheap in another way, too - a way that Wall Street's either not telling us about, or just doesn't understand."
Needless to say, that last statement grabbed my attention. And I told him so.
Peter laughed, and then went on with his commentary.
"Over the last decade or so, the best of these companies have aggressively expanded their reserves. They've done so organically - that is, developed properties themselves. And they've done so by purchasing small development-stage, or production-stage players," Peter said. "Investors don't realize just how much it costs to add reserves - especially if a company is doing so by itself. That's particularly true today, with all the regulations and public protests boosting environmental and compliance costs."
Statistics Peter provided bear this out. In 1991, there were 11 gold discoveries. Twenty years later - in 2011 - there were three. And companies spent $8 billion looking for new strikes that same year.
"So you see, Bill, that the miners that already added reserves had tremendous foresight," Peter said. "Having spent a number of years just growing their reserves, all it will take to reap the payoff will be some event that kicks off a mania in gold prices. And we're not talking about longshot odds for that to happen. All you need is the "right' set of events, either domestically or globally, to cause gold prices to rise. When that happens, gold-mining stocks will be off to the races."
Gold prices have suffered of late because of a strong U.S. dollar. That surprising strength (in the face of the whole "fiscal-cliff" mess) stems from the fact that worries about Europe have transformed the dollar into a "safe-haven" investment.
Gold and the dollar are negatively correlated because gold is priced in dollars, but most of the buyers aren't in dollar-based economies. (Because these buyers are Swiss, Indian or Chinese, just to name a few, they look at the price of gold in Swiss francs, Indian rupees or Chinese renminbi. And if the U.S. dollar is strong, the price of gold in dollars is weak - even if the native currency price remains the same.)
So the rise we've seen in the dollar has been accompanied by a sell-off in gold.
Investing in Gold Stocks
Naturally, that sell-off in gold has affected gold stocks.Over the past three months Newmont Mining Corp. (NYSE: NEM) is down about 21% and Barrick Gold Corp. (NYSE: ABX) is down about 20%, but the SPDR Gold Shares ETF is down only about 5%.
Looking ahead, the U.S. Federal Reserve's plan to continue printing money (and that of the European Central Bank (ECB), or the new stimulus plan we're likely to get from the Bank of Japan (BOJ) should be very good for gold.
And a jump in gold prices will be even better for gold miners.
The reason for that is called "leverage."
When gold prices jump, a gold-producer sees its earnings accelerate at a faster pace than the price of the actual metal.
I saw a hypothetical in a recent edition of USA Today that explains this perfectly.
For example, if you own a mine that can produce gold for $1,100 an ounce, but gold is trading at $1,200, you're making a profit of $100 an ounce.
But what if gold jumps from that $1,200 price level to, say, $1,500? That's a price increase of $300, or 25%. For the gold miner, however, profits have jumped from $100 to $300 - a 200% gain.
Two miners to consider are Newmont Mining Corp. (NYSE: NEM) and Barrick Gold Corp. (NYSE: ABX).
"One of the ones that I like is Newmont," Peter told me. "It has a very good dividend yield of nearly 3.2%. It's well-diversified geographically. The stock has gone sideways for a very long time and now the company is making a very concerted effort to keep its costs down."
Then there's the Toronto-based Barrick, the world's biggest gold producer.
"Barrick, like other miners, has seen that investors are not exactly thrilled with the performance of their shares," Peter said. "The reason for that is that the company spent a number of years just growing its reserves. But it did so by using its own stock as currency to buy the smaller companies that we talked about earlier. That was very dilutive."
But Barrick has suddenly gotten religion - of the shareholder variety. In June, it fired CEO Aaron Regent after less than four years on the job: Board members were apparently peeved that the company's share price didn't move during that period, despite the huge run-up in gold prices.
"Going forward, just from the signs or evidence that I've seen, the company has adopted a much more investor-attentive attitude - and the ouster of the CEO is just one bit of that evidence," Peter said. "The company is trying to focus on keeping its costs in line. And it's trying to produce the hell out of what it already has in the ground. The odds are high that we'll have a pretty good six to 12 months to come."
Barrick's 2.4% dividend isn't bad either - especially because of the current "zero-interest-rate-policy" (ZIRP) environment.
If you want the full lowdown on what's to come in the natural-resources sector - which we believe will have a big year in 2013 - take some time to see everything that Peter is looking at by clicking here.
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Is the current environment for gold also holding down the upward movement anticipated for silver. Many investment letters have been predicting significant to huge upward movement for silver by year end. We're down to days now, so I don't see that happening. I know that Peter Krauth expects a slower but significant uptick between now and spring. With the large ratio gap between silver and gold, how important is any movement up or down for gold to silver?
Adam Hamilton of Zeal Intelligence says to buy silver when the Gold/Silver Ratio gets over 55 and sell when it gets below 45. Latest reading is 55.64, meaning it takes that many ounces of silver to buy 1 ounce of gold.
Respected sir,
Thanking you for your mail, I read it is very good and knowledgeable. I want to invest in the gold for 6 month to 8 month of period of time, Please guide me about right level and time of investment in the gold.
Peter that's too optimistic. Paying a 3% dividend while losing 20% isn't the hallmark of a "pretty good dividend". That sounds to me like you're putting a apple in front of the donkey as it's going down a hill with this article.
If you're stating that the board members were "apparently peeved" how about backing that up with something sustantial like comments from the board members and serving something real.
Mr. Bellinger: I am 68 years old,I,m the kind that never listens to the on stage play the govt. is pushing us I always want to go back stage and see what,s happening there.It was 25years ago I heard about the new world order,CFR,the list on them etc.If you remember when Bush sr, was in the white house he mentioned NWO in alot of his speeches, Jr. was to dumb, and now we have a President,who can,t tell the truth,where did he come from. I have a feeling he was groomed for the job along time ago,that,s why Jr, always ducked the border safety,and pushed Erkle in, asians, blacks and mexican.(ERKLE) is what my name for obama is)he lacks guts,he has proving it by kissing all of our emenies buts. And I used to live in DEL. i have certified letters I keep in a file when my wife and I were fighting for our abused granddaughters after 8yrs, we have them.Bidon did nothing,in fact the last talk I received from him "was stopping threating me",I said I,m not dumb enough to threaten a us senator,especially 911, I,m asking you to do your job we put you in office for.Erkle has put him in as head of a few yes men to have the 2 amendment thrown out. Erkle put him there not because his great leadership he put him under his foot so Joe bidon doesn,t run his mouth again while the mikes are on. Thank you for your time, Raymond Buarque,,son of a world war ii vet who was in the 101st ABD and was wounded twice at the Battle Of Bastogne, Belgium and Battle of the bulge, my dad had guts our leaders now can,t even spell the WORD.God Bless the USA.
Ray – God bless the USA!!! Why should God bless the USA??? Why shouldn't God bless the likes of Darfur or Sudan or those that really need his blessing or are more deserving of his blessing? You mention the US's enemies, have you EVER wondered why the US has so many enemies? No of course you did not!!
Btw – I agree with you that Obama has been groomed, but the Republican’s have also done their HUGE part in making the US what it is today. Only a naive idiot would think otherwise.
Dear Sir we always hear about buying gold and I now have 2,750 kilograms of gold almost ready to sell but no one ever tells me where to sell it at the best price
regards
steve
You should be selling to retail jewelry stores.
I own a plant that makes gold from scrap electronics like cell phones, Computer boards telephone scrap the world is full of Gold just stop china getting it first.
JB – Why are you implying that China is at fault here? They're not!
I'm not sure why McK wants to sell his gold right now either, they say gold will sky rocket into the 1000's before this is over.
Find a coin dealer in your area, only they will give you full weight value. DO NOT sell to a jeweler as you will only receive 60-80% of current oz. value
This particular article has been spoken about over 14 months ago from what I have been reading. A little late to the game and quite lame, in my opinion.
Dear Spud:
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I think anyone who reads an analysis piece, mulls it over and then actually takes the time to post their thoughts automatically deserves a measure of respect for their time, initiative and effort. And I mean that.
And since you said you disagreed with the premise of this piece, I thought you also deserved a response.
I have to confess that I'm having a bit of difficulty ascertaining the precise basis of your displeasure, so I'll make a couple of assumptions here. I'm assuming you're talking about the fact that mining stocks have lagged the advance in the price of actual bullion. If that's the case, you are correct in stating that this situation has persisteed for quite some time. In our defense, however, you would be incorrect in saying that we're late to the party on this point.
We were actually on the vanguard of this story. By that I mean we've been talking about the dissimilar performances from the very outset. I know that I've been writing about this in our Private Briefing premium service for roughly the same period. So, again, this isn't a situation that we've just now discovered.
I am a bit confused with your intimation that the premise of this story is moot (again, I'm assuming that's what you're driving at). With the latest actions of the Fed, and with what's now taking place in Japan, the issue of inflation, cheap money policies, concerns about weak currencies, the investment potential of hard assets, precious metals and other commodities would seem to me to be as current — and as relevant to investors — as ever. And the disparity between Wall Street's gold-price projections … and the more-aggressive estimates put forth by Peter Krauth … I would think makes for some pretty valuable insights for our readers.
We care very much for our readers here at Money Morning. That's why Publisher Mike Ward has made the investment required to assemble a team of experts that includes Peter, Chief Investment Strategist Keith Fitz-Gerald, Shah Gilani, Michael Robinson and others.
We wanted to set ourselves apart from the financial Websites. Most of those folks merely "report" what other so-called "experts" are saying … Here at Money Morning, actual experts tell you what they KNOW. And trust me when I tell you that these are real experts … these are guys who have worked and WON behind Wall Street's velvet rope … and who are now willing to tell you how things really work, to expose Wall Street's dirty tricks, and to show you what you need to do to survive and thrive.
And, having made this investment, we still provide these insights at no cost … each and every weekday … here at Money Morning.
Are we perfect? Absolutely not. But if you look at the body of our work, I think you'd have to agree that it's better than you'll find anywhere else.
It helps that folks such as yourself take the time to let us know what they think. That forces us to examine what we're doing, let's us know if we're not serving our readers' needs, or need to provide more detail and depth on a particular topic.
I hope that I adressed your points. And I hope that my mention of the fact that we've been following this topic for some time makes clear the fact that we're not late to the party on this topic. This analysis is an extension of a large body of work that focuses on this area.
Indeed, I really you having written, for it gave me the opportunity to remind folks how long we've been writing about thyis.
So again, Spud, please let me offer our sincerest thanks to you for taking the time to write … and by all means please do so again.
And may I wish you a New Year that's safe, happy … and exceptionally prosperous…
Respectfully yours;
William Patalon III
Executive Editor
Money Morning & Private Briefing
Don'twaste your time listening to Stnsbury. Do your own thinking.
This is great play…yes its the best opportunity to put yyour hard earned money… what a great and a bright spot…. boom bbcode…
Peter I have invested 7.4 kgs of gold in November 2011. What would be my expected returns by now…am quite new to the industry and need some insite.
Pls I kindly request if you could give me some idea as to much should have accumulated so far.
Regards
Nathaniel
The middle class salaries have been losing purchasing power for about a decade (more than 10% lost) yet essentials like food, education, etc. costs are leading the modest over all inflation.
Unfortunately while gold holds its value or even gains, it is useless for buying the baby´s milk. The hard pressed middle class that bought some gold (or silver) is forced to sell it now to buy the baby´s milk, etc. That ain´t gona change until middle class gets better paying jobs, etc. – Expect gold to have continued selling pressure until economy has a real recovery for the middle class, and not just for the corporations with growing international sales.
That plus profit taking in 2012, not 2013 is why gold price is dropping.