With Washington battling over what to do about its $16.4 trillion debt pile, rumors are swirling that the government will start taking 401(k) money to cure its fiscal ills.
There's plenty to take.
A study published by the Investment Company Institute in 2012 stated that U.S. retirement assets at the mid-point of the year totaled somewhere in the neighborhood of $18.5 trillion.
If you look specifically at what most Americans take advantage of - IRAs and 401(k) plans - they have amassed $3.5 trillion and $5.1 trillion, respectively.
These large sums of untaxed money are proving to be very tempting to an administration looking for revenue to help rein in our whopping national debt.
"The government is spending money like a drunken sailor, and they need to get their meat hooks into any cash stock pile they can," Money Morning Chief Investment Strategist Keith Fitz-Gerald explained in the accompanying video on why the government could start taking 401(k) money.
Here's why you should be alarmed.
Is the Government After 401(k) Money?
The idea of the government taking 401(k) money is part of a larger conversation happening in the financial community about retirement plans undergoing drastic changes.
Those rumored changes include limiting of deductions, retroactive taxation and a possible government takeover to force you to invest in U.S. Treasury bonds.
This call for reform didn't come out of nowhere - it has a track record dating back at least two years.
Here's what's been discussed in relation to 401(k) savings:
- Back in 2010, the President's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform proposed lowering the cap on tax-deferred contribution limits for 401(k)s. The commission proposed limiting the annual cap on 401(k) employer/employee combined contributions to $20,000 from $49,000. That was the limit two years ago. Now the cap it is up to $51,000.
- The President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board suggested either cutting or ending the retirement tax deduction entirely. This would be done in order to pay for an expansion of the Saver's Credit that targets low-income workers.
- Also in 2010 Senators John Kerry, D-MA, and Jeff Bingaman, D-NM, recommended in meetings and public hearings at the Treasury and U.S. Labor Department that an "Automatic IRA" be established. Employers would be directed to contribute 3% of an employee's salary into a government retirement plan investing in Treasuries. The government would then guarantee a 3% return.
- In September 2011, the Senate Finance Committee held a hearing to discuss retirement plan reform. It mostly talked about cutting 401(k) tax deductions. One proposal put on the table - in which we should take particular note - was to get rid of the entire 401(k) tax deduction and replace it with a flat government match anywhere between 18% - 30%. William Gale of the Brookings Institute came up with the idea. He believes that the 18% mark would increase tax revenues by $458 billion over 10 years.
But is there reason for concern or is it all just political posturing?
The American Society of Pension Professionals and Actuaries (ASPPA) in November 2012 started a media campaign with the intent to inform both employers and workers that the government is considering an overhaul of tax benefits for retirement savings accounts.
With them entering the fray, it's a good time to start paying attention to this threat to your money.
Will the Government Really Start Taking 401(k) Money?
Probably over the next few years there will be a lot of discussion involving tax reform and tax expenditures will be on the table. Expenditures are all the breaks the government allows us through the tax code.
Dallas Salisbury, chief executive of the Employee Benefit Research Institute, a nonprofit think tank, stated, "Should the parties take the approach that both have discussed-that is, a dollar limit on itemized deductions or a maximum tax rate applied to deductions-then retirement incentives will likely be left where they are, or very close to it."
However, if there is no substantial overhaul of the tax code, he believes that Congress will attempt to boost tax revenue through cutting contribution limits around the year 2014.
This is a story to keep tabs on. How you plan for retirement going forward could definitely be affect - whichever way the government decides to start taking 401(k) money.
Chief Investment Strategist Keith Fitz-Gerald first explored this story in 2010. Check out his analysis here: Why the Government Wants to Hijack Your 401(k).




Enough! We believe the Feds will make this move! WHAT DO WE DO TO PROTECT OURSELVES? I spent 48 years building a mocest IRA Annuity. If I withdraw it I pay hefty penalties AND EVEN MORE HEFTY TAXES!!
What is the answer for once Midlle Class folks like me? How can we try to protect what we worked so hard to accumulate?
The Fed has Main Street over a barrel. The 401k was meant to be a savings account and not a pension plan but it has been marketed as so, so people believe it. This was actually on 60 Minutes about a year or so ago.
I urge, in fact implore everyone to read The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin. Then research the Bilderberg Group.
The money these Special Interest Groups make at the expense of Main Street regardless of what country you are from needs to stop and we need to take back what is rightfully ours. The money would/could be used to better infrastructure, healthcare, education etc., etc everywhere instead of lining their pockets. This money does NOT belong in their pockets at all.
It's too late! I have lost already 1/3 of my 357 plan. Federal pension fund. Its
horribly sick. From matching investments 6 years ago to
$0.13 per dollar matching! I'm one of @11,000 contractors that are loosing to a slow death. Promises of returns since 2008… Now, out of 11,000 contractors in 2006, we are only @4,300 still working! Its a ballooned plan that popped in June of 2011. Crime has tripping problems and less and less fundings every year and we are just fish is a barrel of Government promises and back door deals!
Watch the next huge problem! Hundreds of thousands of inmates will be released back into public population (FREE) without parole or probation boards! Because of NO FUNDING!
Governments have been releasing lots of Barrabas ever since Roman Times 2,013 years ago.
2013 years ago, you had the right to protect your family and personal possessions, in some cases. How much would the average person (NOT YOU) PAY for protection or safety? They way things are going, I don't care if Donald Trump needs protection! His money, USD the paper is worth nothing. Precious Metals is what contractors are getting NOW. America, Dubai, Africa and elsewhere!
@jacqueline — you are clearly wrong or lying or both. if you spent 48 years amassing a modest IRA annuity, then you should know that you are of an age that you can start taking distributions, at age 59 1/2, without penalty. (You are basically lying and/or ignorant of the law. IRA's were not in existence until 1974 — thus making contributions possible for ONLY 39 years.) IRA annuities are not the best investments for taking lump sum payments – it isn't the big, bad government that is going to penalize you, it is the private company that you invested with and you agreed to their terms and conditions. This is YOUR fault. Now live with the consequences.
Additionally, you SHOULD pay taxes on that money that you withdraw. You are not special or exempt. You got to invest it without ever having paid taxes on it and that was part of the deal: you invest now tax-free and you will pay the taxes later which lets you have more money immediately to invest than after-tax dollars.
Furthermore, if you have been saving for 48 years, one can only guess that you were at least 12-13 when you started saving, making you around 60 years old, old enough to take distributions without penalty.
Come back when you can stop lying and fear mongering. Don't blame others for poor investment decisions you made and also stop lying about them as well. The big, bad government isn't to blame. You are. For being ignorant and not knowing what you are doing.
Is your rant really necessary? Whether they have saved for 30 year or 3 it is not the point. I don't think there is any question about the tax implication of withdrawing the funds. The problem is that the saver(401k owner) should control the account not the government.
Yea, here rant is more than appropriate. When someone chooses to forgo truth and use lies they lose credibility. Truth does matter. Are you so far gone that that escapes you? Thanks m-girl. My hats off to you!
As far as the Feds: Until we the people take responsibility we will continue to lose. We are to blame more than the government. We put them in office, and we keep them their. I see little hope for America unless the political apathy ends and people start looking at there elected officials public records and vote based on facts not rhetoric.
America, the land l love is spending herself into oblivion….
Forgive the typos: her not here and there not their. Proper English is also important.
the government is taking retirement money now and just to let you know taxes were paid on this money when i worked and now it is being taxed again who said double taxation was illegal they are doing it now and i cotacted my federal credit union to ask why and was told everybody is bein taxed and the raise i got 4 years ago was taken along with 48 dollars more for taxes so do not tell me this is false
annunity is false never are ira 4o1ks to be ins. system
People obviously do not want to take personal responsbility for their own finances and retirement. They have been conditioned to borrow, spend and NOT save for a rainy day. So, not surprisingly, when they are suddenly unprepared at 65, they go to "Uncle Sugar" to make them whole.
This common expectation of the majority of American voters who also live paycheck to paycheck will is unlikely change in future years. Hence the demand for more entitlements and no cuts. Instead, the masses demand Obama further tax "the rich" (Someone else, be it their neighbor, the CEO's, or whoever). So, Obama is more than happy to give the voters whatever "they' say 'they' want. "
The government will not survive doing that certainly not the elected officials. They won't dare thought they will think about it and they certainly have. 401k money is deffered capital for the goverment the reality is they get it later not sooner . All they have to do to get the 401k money is raise ordinary taxes and wait for the participants to have required minimum distributions except for the roth IRA component. If they start seizing 401 k money now well it is going to get converted or distributed fast out of 401ks damned if you do and damned if you don't means a tax revolt like they have never seen with someone like Ron or Rand Paul not looking so crazy and being elected. The Foreign holders of US debt have far less claim on it than US citizens desire not to pay it back so they ought to start cashing out now instead of later. The US does not have to default like Russia or Argentina or Mexico in the past they can just keep owing unless foreign troops show up and somehow force repayment. so keep the us military well funded and don't worry about the foreign debts because the foreigners can start buying us goods and services anytime they like.
BARACK HUESSIN OBAMA:
" I'M GONN'A TAKE YO NIKES"*
* Nike shoes is code for your IRA and 401(K) "Private", Tax-Deferred Pension Accounts.
If the government take over iras and remove the money all at once the stock market will crash
I worked for 40 years in the private sector. My wife and I raised 6 children and put them all through college. (She stayed home to care for her kids until our youngest started school and then when back to work.) We made many financial sacrifices over the years. We lived within our means and ALWAYS put something away for the future instead of splurging on things that were not really needed. We paid taxes on the money we managed to save when we earned it. We took the risk involved in investing that money So what right does the government have to change the rules now? Savings should not be stolen from those who took responsibility for providing for themselves to support those who didn't.
That is money that the government shouldn't be able to touch.
Are theylooking at our Conventional and Roth IRAs also?