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Fight Club: Edward Snowden – Traitor or Hero?

Frank Marchant: Chalk One More Up for "Traitor"

Most of the time the person for whom the word describes can be both!

Personal analysis of whether any person is a traitor or hero depends on the side from where you are viewing the individuals' deed.

Because that side of the issue, where your sympathy lies, is not only where you will find your answer, it's also where you will find to whom or what your own allegiance is pledged.

Benedict Arnold, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Jane Fonda, and even Robert Hanssen were all heroes somewhere!

Let me refresh your memory:

Benedict Arnold, If you were raised on this side of the pond Arnold is synonymous with disloyalty and to many treason!

In England Arnold is a hero. The church where Arnold was buried, St Mary's Church Battersea, England, has a tribute to him in a stained glass window.

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, executed under Section 2 of the Espionage Act for passing secrets of the US construction of the atomic bomb to Russia. Both considered Russian heroes.

Jane Fonda, North Vietnamese sympathizer who during the height of the war traveled to N. Vietnam and said, "Captured Americans who say they are being tortured by the N. Vietnam, military are liars!"

No statues anywhere for Fonda other than a star on the, "walk of fame" in Hollywood! For the record Jane has said, "she's sorry!"( No statue in N. Vietnam)

Robert Hanssen is the former FBI agent who for 22 years spied for the Soviet Union. Now spending 24 hours alone daily in his maximum security cell in a "Supermax" prison for life, without parole. Considered by many to be the worst intelligence disaster in US history. The Russian KGB is kind of fond of him.

That brings us up to Edward Snowden…..

Before I could pass judgment on this young man I needed to assemble some facts.

Firstly, the definition of the word from several dictionaries:

Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary: Traitor,
a person who changes to the enemy's side or gives away information to the enemy. He was a traitor to his country.

Merriam – Webster Dictionary: TRAITOR,
one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty.

Cambridge Dictionary: Traitor,
A personwho gives away or sells secretsof his or her country, or someone not loyal to particular beliefs or friends.

Oxford Dictionary: Traitor,
A person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.: they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy

Second, I need to examine what Snowden has done:

Edward Snowden took a job for less pay than the job he held to work at the NSA. His reasons for this are only known to him.

According to released evidence, Snowden using "thumb drives," recorded information above his pay level without the express permission of his employer. He then removed the same from his office again without permission.

Snowden then transported himself and the information he was not to have had and flew to Hong Kong. When he arrived he shared top secret, classified documents with the world via Wikileaks and Julian Assange.

If Edward Snowden worked for a company and stole secrets it would be wrong. Stealing corporate secrets, like stealing money, is wrong. I believe the same thing holds true when someone works for the government; taking something that does not belong to you for whatever purpose is wrong.

Yes, I hear the argument that he is an American citizen and the NSA works
for the people. Or, it's supposed to.

So, did Edward Snowden "give away or sell secrets of his or her country, or someone not loyal to particular beliefs or friends?

Yes he did!

Did Edward Snowden, betray a friend, country or principle?

Again, Yes he did!

Did Edward Snowden, change to the enemy's side or give away information to the enemy.

Once again, Yes he did!

Edward Snowden is a traitor to his country.

Greg Madison: Edward Snowden Ought to Be Protected – and Heard

Edward Snowden left behind a $200,000 a year job, a beautiful girlfriend, and life in Hawaii to bring us the truth about the scope of the National Security Agency's spying… on their fellow Americans.

For this alone, Edward Snowden deserves to be afforded protected, whistleblower status.

Despite my colleague Frank Marchant's arguments to the contrary – and his instinct to lock up everyone under the age of 30!

Snowden may not have told us anything we hadn't already suspected from the odd 60 Minutes story, or internet rumor, but the fact remains that this man walked out of his position, deep within the Secret Machine, to tell the world about what was happening.

Edward Snowden left everything behind to bring us news from the front lines of the Secret War. This war has casualties all over the world, in manifestly different ways.

Edward Snowden worked for Booz Allen Hamilton, contracted with the NSA, right in the belly of The Beast. He saw the ongoing outrages being perpetrated right before his eyes.

He knew what this meant for our society. And he knew the consequences of betraying these dark secrets, bringing them to the light of day.

And he did it anyway.

Nowadays, Edward Snowden is (apparently) holed up in the transit area of the Novotel at Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport. He exists in a no-man's land.

Not strictly on Russian soil, under tight security, with his movement severely restricted. Any food he eats is, well, airport hotel food.

The Associated Press sent News Director Ian Philips to the Novotel to get a glimpse of Snowden, and to report on the conditions he's living in now.

Snowden's room costs $300 per night. The room's windows are double-paned security glass, looking out over an unpretty barbed wire vista. He may be allowed to smoke once per hour for five minutes at a time – if airport security is feeling charitable… Though for Russians to keep a man from his tobacco is all but unthinkable.

A salad will cost $20. A bottle of wine, $80. A ribeye steak, $50. As Ian Phillips reported, Edward Snowden is most definitely not living the life of an international super spy.

He's extremely unlikely to see his family, his loved ones, or even set foot on American soil… ever again. All because he threw a wrench into the Secret Machine.

Stateless since the State Department annulled his passport, he's now desperately soliciting offers of asylum from other countries. Europe is out of bounds to him, due to the influence of our government there… and the European security services' own complicity in these outrages. The most likely countries to make the offer will be in South America.

And to say he gave information, aid, or comfort to the enemy is nonsense. He told us. He revealed the true extent of the government's illegal spying to us.

That the world was watching, and saw the System's embarrassment, is incidental. He performed a service for his people.

At one time, a service for government may have been a service to the people… But those days are over, gone even since before the USA PATRIOT Act was signed into law.

But then again, if I'm honest, I might feel differently if I believed Edward Snowden might, on returning to the United States, be given a speedy, public trial by a jury of his peers.

What a concept! That's probably too much to expect during the Secret Wars.

I always believed that in the United States, even a werewolf was entitled to legal counsel and a trial by light of day. To keep anyoneaccused of a crime locked away, incommunicado, before a closed trial, should be abhorrent to American sensibilities.

Edward Snowden should be afforded the same protections that we give to those brave individuals who expose harassment, corruption, and other criminal activities. He should be able to tell us what he knows in a public forum, without fear of arrest – or worse.

Do I have faith that this will happen. Well, no. That lack of faith I spoke about runs two ways, thanks to the Secret Machine and its Secret Wars.

Now that you've seen all the punches flying, it's time to turn in your scorecard.

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  1. mistel | July 12, 2013

    After 4.5 years of this tyrannical communist govt, including its bullying, threatening presence at the mock trial in Sanford, and an Attorney General for our land who makes up his own laws and is prejudiced beyond belief, no one should expect that Snowden would get a fair trial in our country. To condemn him without a trial, to call him a traitor, seems counterintuitive. Perhaps we should make sure we do not slip into the same anti-American attitudes that are prevalent in our govt today.

    • Frank H. Marchant | July 12, 2013

      Mistel, You absolutely are entitled to your opinion and your comments are not without merit. However, I was asked to choose from two words. Were you asked the same which of the two would you select?

      • mistel | July 12, 2013

        I don't condone what he did but neither do I condemn him. I would prefer a trial for him, a fair trial, before choosing a word. In light of all that has come out over these past few years about govt corruption, suppose a trial were to bring out some kind of manipulative threat toward him, blackmail? Or his mental state? Did he have an accomplice? And why would I believe anything the media puts forth about him? I would prefer to be able to call him either and be done with it. But apparently there's always too much going on behind the scenes for us to decide that what we see is what we get.

        • Frank H. Marchant | July 12, 2013

          You are making it too difficult for me to disagree.
          I too would like to see him tried! Did he have an
          accomplice? A great and important question.
          Still, when you take something without permission
          that doesn't belong to you…..not right!

          • mistel | July 12, 2013

            No, it's not right. And five years ago, I would have jumped on the traitor bandwagon. But such a charge (as theft) is why I think that we should not draw conclusions until we know the truth. There's just been too much complicitous behavior from those whom we should have been able to trust. Maybe there weren't any extenuating circumstances for Snowden, but maybe there were. Maybe no other country was involved, but maybe one was. Maybe there was no extortion, maybe there was. Maybe there was no promise of money, maybe there was. But we can no longer risk taking a story at face value.

      • The Magical Poof | July 16, 2013

        Another word for Edward Snowdens act,
        is "TATTLE-TAIL" as I am one…
        If someone walking a dog, saw a person breaking into your home will sleeping, I am sure you will be glad they called the police ! Hhmm.
        If the Gov. is not doing anything BAD why do they want to TRAIL this young man ~ of COURAGE ~ if it is wrong for us to know what they are doing… then it is as bad to have there part in doing ! Hhmm.
        If they get Edward Snowden, I know… , they will kill him ! Why ? !
        He has protected the peoples intrest as did Jesus !!!
        Would you have given your WHOLELIFE [Edward's 30] to help US ??? !
        Think on that & feel a bit of fear rise in you !
        Read: LUKE 16:11-14 & grasp….
        He who is worthy in little, is worthy in much. & He who is unworthy in little, will be unworthy in much. Who, then…
        Jesus says; "you will kow them by their fruits".
        Near time for the Anti-christ to appear…
        might be great Edward has found info to go w/ another act of belief. AMEN

      • Philip | July 18, 2013

        While I am thankful that the two commentators, elaborated on the opposing sides of this issue with Snowden, my heart is sadden as to the state Snowden finds himself in. Is Snowden a traitor? Yes. Did Snowden purposely expose secrets of his government, who paid for his lively heard up until the time of his vacancy? Yes. Why did Snowden do this? Was it for the good for mankind? I hope not. People speak condolences, but nothing has change in the behavior of the people it has effective. We still have corruption in our government. They are still spying and lying, and financing terrorist groups, and allowing terrorist groups to live in the US. We could go on, but what is the use? If I was Snowden, and I disagreed with what my employer/government was doing. I would quit anf than create an organize plan to stop the corruption, if that is what it is. Now though, Snowden, has found himself, holed up in some ungodly country, maybe, and without a pot to pee in worth peeing in…Nobody has proven great concern for his safety, for if they did, he would not be in somewhere outside Russia.
        end of story.
        moral of story?
        mmm maybe hindsight is 20/20

  2. J.Janssen | July 12, 2013

    Although we meanwhile all know that USA is using internet for spying both the outside (USA) world and own people, see Snowdon's action as a kind of wake up call. Orson Welles predicted the kind of world we are presently in but most people do not want to see it. Most are occupied in their nitty gritty enabling the ""leaders"" to build a very dense fishing net around us.

  3. Kent Greenough | July 12, 2013

    The NSA, and other agencies, are so far out of bounds and beyond the constitution it is criminal and the heads of these agencies and the member of Congress who support such actions against the American citizens should be prosecuted!
    Outrageous conduct!

    Snowden did what he did to protect and defend the constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic! There was little surprise if any to our "enemies" of what we could and in fact do in the realm of spying and data analysis. They know, just like we know. Real aid to the enemy, nada.

    The American public, however, is clueless to the extent that a police state is being run in this country and that they are seen as the enemy by their government. Waking up America is what Snowden did, no law against that, yet!

    Now the media and the thugs of government are busy trying to put them back asleep! Marginalize, criminalize and put a way in a cell. Problem solved. Nothing to see here sheeple, move along now.

  4. Wheatie | July 12, 2013

    Obviously Frank thinks that the "enemy" is the American citizens.

  5. joe internet | July 12, 2013

    LOVE your country – FEAR your government !

  6. Werner | July 12, 2013

    That spying was going on was not much of a surprise to me, and that the US are far from being alone doing it, is a certainty. However, its extent and the fact that the government is spying on its own citizens goes beyond my understanding.
    How come then, that they never imagined that bombings could happen at the Boston marathon, and just as much, how come that nothing was done before 9/11 before apparently quite unveiled warnings coming from other secret services.
    If the believers of the conspiration theory were in need of some support, I think present government failures may well provide it.
    I am sad for the American people, they really do not deserve it.

  7. Neil Matthews | July 12, 2013

    Snowden did the American public a great service. For many of us, we know we live in a police state – he just confirmed this and exposed the current regime for what it is!
    That being said, he is, by definition, a traitor. He stole secret information and exposed that information to all – not just US citizens. I'm not saying that what he did wasn't courageous – just illegal.
    However, he is to be afforded the right of being considered innocent till proven guilty. Were there mitigating circumstances? Were alternative disclosure routes attempted before his theft and "leak"?
    I really don't care what he left behind by his actions. He's a theif and traitor – alegedly. There are, surely, other means that could have been pursued to reveal the NSA program to the public without revealing the secret program, itself!

  8. Jeff Pluim | July 12, 2013

    I am a Canadian and I have spent time in both Russia and the USA. The path that the American governments have been on is leading directly to the repressive regimes of Russia. The whole world can see it but because, by in large, Americans do not read or cannot read (both the same in my mind) they continue to eat the same old crap that is spoon fed to them on the 6 PM TV news. I am not saying this about all Americans. But the whole world can see the decline of the level of education and general intelligence of a people who, at one time, deserved to rule the world. Now, half cannot even speak proper English and are ignorant enough to call their language American instead of English. They no longer have a grasp on current political, economic, and social affairs, nationally or especially internationally. It all starts with education. I heard it said recently that a grade 5 Chinese student is learning at the same level as a grade 11 American student. I don't know what the solution is to all of this mess. Perhaps the fall of the great American empire is what will change America into the intelligent, caring, moral nation that it once was. The fall is already underway economically, socially, and morally.

    • travis | July 16, 2013

      Canada will follow in the footsteps of the USA, sorry buddy.

  9. Gordon | July 12, 2013

    Choosing between patriot and traitor requires us to decide where our loyalty lies. Is it to the country and constitution, or is it to the politicians who have largely disregarded the constitution and who are raping the country to benefit the rich and powerful?

    I think it is clear from the way I phrased this question where my opinion lies. I recently saw the quote, attributed to Patrick Henry, I believe, which went as follows: The greatest responsibility of the patriot is to protect his country from its government.

    Snowdon is a patriot. The traitors are in the halls of power in Washington D.C.

    • John Brown | July 16, 2013

      "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." – Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, Washington, D.C., March 4, 186

    • Joe | August 13, 2013

      Gordon, … Well said .. here, here

  10. Günter | July 12, 2013

    Crimes, lies by government officials, and illegal, unconstitutional acts cannot and are not "protected" by a claim of "national security". So there is no action by Snowden that can be contrived to be unlawful by his disclosing them. It is the duty of every American citizen to disclose illegal acts committed by their government. Snowden will ultimately be considered no more of a "traitor" than Sam Adams, or any of the other so-called English traitors who risked their lives for a principle. The real traitors are Americans who fail to understand the concept and like a mass of stupid sheep just jump where they are told and do what they are told.

    • John Brown | July 16, 2013

      "The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers, which are cited to justify it."

      – President John F. Kennedy, Address to newspaper publishers, April 27, 1961

  11. Jeff Burris | July 12, 2013

    Snowden is a big traitor. Time may tell how many billions of dollars and lives this!@#$%^&* cost.

    • John Brown | July 16, 2013

      "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"

      – Samuel Adams, speech, Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776

  12. Hank Hettinger | July 12, 2013

    It seems to me , that all the arrests generated by this new gestapo using the data mining techniques have been frame ups, baiting people,providing the phoney explosives, and preying on young immature minds. It appears to me that the gestapo in their helmets, nija suits, with machine guns, and electronic surveilance are what ran thru Nazi occupied France looking for those who didn't kiss up to the regime like the french whores. It also seems to me that the human spirit is better and stronger than this Garbage childish excuse for security and will in the end prevail.

  13. Rudya | July 12, 2013

    We are falling deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole. Snowden provides evidence of criminal spying by both government and private corporations, proves Clapper committed perjury by lying to Congress, and instead of prosecuting the criminals and asking how such an abomination to our Constitution could happen, the government goes after the person who exposed the crime, rather than after the criminals.

    Wake up America, if Snowden "aided the enemy", then YOU are the enemy. This is a classic symptom of a failing empire turning on its own people. If you think that you have "nothing to fear because you have nothing to hide", these are exactly the same words of Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda for the Nazis. Remember, the decision of whether you have nothing to fear will not be made by you, but by someone else. How many emails have you sent that were then sent to someone else, and then to someone else again. Maybe one of those someone elses has been plotting something, and now you are "associated" with them.

  14. ROLF LOTH | July 12, 2013

    If a member of the MAFIA reveals a MAFIA crime to the public, he will be considered a traitor to the MAFIA, but to the public and the victims, he would be a hero.
    Edward Snowdon betrayed the world's most dangerous, criminal government by releasing information that evidences what the world long before suspected. Edward is paying a heavy price for his heroism. We need more Edward Snowdons in all governments. Perhaps this would stop the criminals at the top from eroding our freedom using the excuse of protecting national security.

  15. George Mecham | July 12, 2013

    "Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it."

    I don't mean to belittle those who have fallen victim to acts of terrorism or those who have lost their live while serving this country.

    But, this country is worth dying for… and not because of the height of our skyscrapers, or the power of our military, or the size of our economy. Our pride is based on a very simple premise, summed up in a declaration made over two hundred years ago:

    "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

    Cliche as it may sound, that is the true genius of America — a faith in simple dreams, an insistence on small miracles. That we can say what we think, write what we think, without hearing a sudden knock on the door. That we can have an idea and start our own business without paying a bribe…

    And if we give up those rights, or allow them to be eroded then we have given up the most basic tenets of our country's founding principles. I know many don't see current NSA policy as a gross invasion of privacy. But it's important to understand that policy protection is no protection – policy is a one-way ratchet that only loosens.

    Perhaps Benjamin Franklin said it best "He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."

    (Bonus points if you noticed the Obama quote halfway through this comment)

    • Frank H. Marchant | July 12, 2013

      It's not even totally clear, reading these answers, how much … "US Persons do enjoy limited policy protections (and again, it's important to understand that policy protection is no protection – policy is a one-way ratchet that only loosens)

    • Joe | August 13, 2013

      George, Love your response WAKE UP AMERICA before its to late.

  16. Dietmar Tholen | July 12, 2013

    When the governing group needs her/him they call them “Privateers”
    If they do not need them anymore they call them “Pirates”

    When the governing group needs her/him they call them “Freedom fighters”
    If they do not need them anymore they call them “terrorists”

    When the governing group needs her/him they call them “Heros”
    If they do not need them anymore they call them “Traitors/Spies”

    The activities are the same only the official label changes and because of that and having experience with dictatorships in East European countries before 1985 as well as Homeland Security in the last few years it is better to forget “free speech”. That is where so called “democracies” are now and it is not going to get better.

  17. Doris Kelsey | July 12, 2013

    Snowden is a traitor to the government, but he is not a traitor to the people. Our government, with 50% of the elected belonging to the 1% is not representative of the people. All he did was prove what we suspected. The 1% doesn't like whistle blowers.

  18. Del Davis | July 12, 2013

    Can't answer the question of traitor or whistleblower without answers to some questions I've not seen asked.
    1) Did Snowden seek out the reporter or did the reporter seek out him?
    2) Did Snowden request payment or did the reporter offer money first?
    3) Was money exchanged for the information?
    The money is the key to the question of traitor or whistleblower. Why do I say it's all about the money? Because it's always about the money!

  19. Mike | July 12, 2013

    Eric Snowden is a hero and a patriot; most of the Obama administration, especially Eric Holder and Obama himself, are traitors! They absolutely violated their oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution with their blatant disregard for our first and fourth amendment rights. Keeping us safe my ass, they want to keep themselves and their Wall St. bankster cronies safe from the peoples wrath when they finally figure out how much they've been screwed over by the USSA.

  20. Glen | July 12, 2013

    Frank – I think that you choose the wrong representatives in your argument. It may be more appropriate to consider "Deep Throat" and Daniel Ellsberg with the Pentagon Papers. Haven't we been done this road before? My Country, right or wrong?

  21. Skipper | July 13, 2013

    I see there are two answers to the question.

    1. Regarding informing the US Citizens that the NSA is illegally spying on them, was and is not treason. It is true whistle blowing and such an act by the NSA and current co-conspirators should be dealt with and not allowed to be swept under the rug. Any other acts he reported, which are a violation of the US Constitution would fall under the same category. The US Constitution is supposed to be the supreme law of the land and not to be abrogated. For this he should not be charged.

    2. Regarding informing the world of other acts of espionage/surveillance the US is doing via the NSA on the world at large was not a violation of the US Constitution, was a violation of his security clearance and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. For this he is a traitor.

  22. aswhyhard | July 13, 2013

    If The United States Of America is a nation of law then that law is The Constitution Of The United States. All veterans have sworn an oath to "support and defend The Constitution Of The United States".

    If Snowden is supporting and defending The Constitution he is a patriot. Unfortunately, I do not believe most Americans know what The Constitution says or why it was written. If the government of the United States is violating the law of the land someone needs to make this information public. The question is; Who, in the government, is going to prosecute the government for violating the law of the land? Certainly not Mr. Snowden.

    In this case the government has all the muscle; prosecutors, police, unlimited funds etc. So one might say that might makes right. Even if Snowden has the truth on his side he will be crucified

  23. Isaac Fertner | July 13, 2013

    Espionage is revealing information to the enemy. Since Snowden revealed the truth to the citizens of the United States about their own government spying on them, and is now charged with espionage, it logically follows that the government of the United States considers its own citizens to be the enemy. Sound screwy? It is, and only with the mealy mouthed big brother justifications the press allows this administration could something so putrid on the part of government be twisted into an affair about a spy on the run.

    • Frank Marchant | July 14, 2013

      While I totally agree with your premiss Isaac, Snowden in your own words, "Espionage is revealing information to the enemy." Snowden did exactly that! The "Fast And Furious"
      whistle blowers did the same as Snowden, but did it legally without hurting the government by giving aid and comfort to our enemies.

  24. William H. Depperman | July 14, 2013

    The USA Capitalist Dictatorship has Launched a Program of Vilification, Excoriation and
    Character Assassination of Andrew Snowden as it Prepares to try to Assassinate Him Physically! Snowden Represents the Beginning of a Potential Mutiny in the US Military! But Mutiny must be Organized by a Communist Party which has not yet been Re-organized!
    CUBA would be Snowden’s Best Asylum Bet because Cuba is a Workers’ State, but Russia
    Has Effectively Imprisoned Edward Snowden to Please the USA! Venezuela, Bolivia or Nicaragua Could Turn Out to be a Fatal Error! For Example, Daniel Ortega Assassinated Both FMLN Leaders Carpio and Ana Maria under Orders from the USSR in March-April 1983 Because Carpio Insisted on Waging a Guerilla War for State Power in El Salvador!—National Security Agency Surveillance Programs: Snowden, Bradley Manning and Assange

    In order to try to discourage hundreds and potentially thousands of future Snowdens the NSA is now 1.) Implementing the “Two-Person Rule” that requires a second person to approve access to sensitive information and also 2.) Subjecting the worldview of prospective employees to extensive scrutiny prior to hire (!) and 3.) Thorough vetting of present staff in a McCarthy Era-type anti-Communist witch hunt to try to weed out those not loyal to a system which is fundamentally based on war, mass murder, crime and subjugation in order to steal natural resources and new markets to increase private profits. But ALL these measures can be easily circumvented as greater numbers of NSA/CIA system analysts and the military rank and file and those at every level of government begin to realize that the USA capitalist dictatorship must be disarmed through a systematically organized mutiny. The capitalists realize the limits of these stopgap measures and think the best way to discourage future Snowdens is to pursue him to the end of the Earth and ASSASSINATE HIM WITH MAXIMUM PUBLICITY JUST LIKE OSAMA BIN LADEN! Assassination is the new USA policy under Obama just as torture was the new policy under Bush 2 and that is the USA plan for Snowden, which may fail but ONLY if Snowden reaches CUBA!

    In the meantime the USA capitalist dictatorship has decided to try to vilify Snowden and assassinate his character instead, while using the Snowden revelations to try to intimidate the masses, while simultaneously denying the surveillance on various levels and falsely justifying it simultaneously as “preventing terrorism.” On June 7, 2013 the media initially reported Snowden’ revelations of MASSIVE USA (and UK) phone and Internet surveillance programs, which are routinely and criminally rubber-stamped by Congress and “secret intelligence courts” and appeared to be comprehensive on every conceivable level! (Later in July it was also revealed that the French “DGSE foreign intelligence service” was doing the exact same thing!) In addition to recording all phone calls made in the USA for over 10 years, it was revealed that the so-called National Security Agency (NSA) and MI6 British Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) have ALSO been tapping directly into servers of ALL social media websites, e.g. Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc. to track Online communication in a program called “PRISM!” Over 200 fiber-optic international and undersea cables were also directly tapped by the UK permitting monitoring of 600 million communications every day and the information stored INDEFINTELY! Later Snowden revealed that the USA and UK are spying on the European Union and the governments and citizens of all European Union countries and all Latin American countries! The irrefutable fact that ALL “Terrorist Plots” from the 911 Trade Center Provocation Attack to the 2001 and Subsequent Anthrax Provocations to the Underpants Bomber to the Times Square Bomber to the Boston Marathon Bombers to the Buffalo New York High School Student “Terrorist Plot” to the Florida High School Student “Terrorist Plot” were ALL SET-UPS is proof that the claim by “Gen.” Keith Alexander, director of the NSA, that “surveillance helped stop dozens of attacks” is a BIG LIE! (Even Democratic Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall have said they had seen no evidence NSA programs had produced "uniquely valuable intelligence.” The surveillance described by Edward Snowden was partly used to locate anti-American Islamic Fundamentalists in the USA, who were then immediately contacted by deep-cover NSA/CIA agents sent in who pretended to support them, manipulated them and then set them up with explosives, help with picking targets, etc. Thus any supposed “terrorist plot” has already been reported in the media! There were not more than a half-dozen such “plots!” The USA also spies on China, Russia, UK, EU and all 197 countries in the UN! The USA is waging war against the entire world! The USA is even able to block asylum for Snowden in violation of International Law!

    The USA capitalist dictatorship also controls the entire Internet by controlling all the political websites, most of which permit NO COMMENT WHATSOEVER or require “sign-ins” and “passwords,” which the so-called “intelligence community” then often immediately deletes (!) to prevent access. The only political comments usually permitted are occasional brainless “peanut gallery twitter-type” short responses. The USA also blocks access to hundreds of servers and websites so that American users of the Internet are only able to read approved propaganda and Big Lies of Commission or Omission. Another method virtually ALL websites use to decrease readership even in the short comments which are permitted—only after the 5th page of websites listed on websites such as Google—is to chop up all the sentences of blog entries into sentence fragments separated by huge spaces sometimes as large as several lines. “We are modifying comments” blocks the rest!

    Although media coverage of Edward Snowden first focused on his “fugitive” status and the question of which capitalist country would grant him asylum, at another level there was an initial media build-up of Snowden and Bradley Manning, and previously Julian Assange, comparing them to Daniel Ellsberg, who released the Pentagon Papers, who merely represented that faction of USA capitalism which wanted an end to the Vietnam War; Woodward and Bernstein who reported on and wrote a cover-up of the Watergate Bloodless Removal of Richard Nixon by Nelson Rockefeller—the real “Deep Throat;” and Phillip Agee. Agee was a CIA deep cover “limited hang-out” operative who specialized in “Covert Action-Dirty Work” information who pretended he had “defected from the CIA” in the 1980s and acted as a supposed “authoritative source” for leftists unaware of his purpose, which was to try to monopolize “truth” about capitalist statecraft and conspiracies in order to cover up actual imperialist political policies and political assassinations, etc. from a supposed “left” position and keep genuine opposition loyal to capitalism by keeping them confused and by never ever proposing the solution—Socialism. But Manning and Assange, despite the fact that Assange appears on Sunday’s “This Week” (ABC), appear to be manipulee cutouts. There is no possible way that Bradley Manning though he was without a doubt legitimately motivated, or any one person anywhere could have accumulated 250,000 United States diplomatic state department cables plus 500,000 army reports (the Iraq War logs and Afghan War logs) onto one or even two (2) computers (!), which were then serialized by Wikileaks’ Julian Assange, WHO CENSORED (“redacted!”) ALL documents before release to the media! It took a lot of long, coordinated arduous work from all branches and offices of the State Department worldwide and the USA military to get this information to these people who were then hung out to dry! Assange, a vehement anti-Communist who also “documented millions of emails sent by the Syrian government and business officials,” (New York Times, June 24, 2013) thus assisting the USA in its Proxy Invasion of Syria (!), is presented as the only person in his Australian University class who did not work for DARPA! Right! (HaHaHa!) Assange undoubtedly has been working for DARPA and US “intelligence” the whole time as a deep-cover “intelligence” operative. The Wikileaks “revelations” were apparently thus a total set-up: 1.) to popularize USA Statecraft and 2.) to try to generate patriotism at the same time by denouncing and charging Manning and Assange and now Snowden as “traitors!” Manning and Snowden naively think that the only alternative is to claim to be “patriots.” Remember this is not our country! We just live here! We owe no loyalty whatsoever to the USA capitalist dictatorship! Precisely the opposite! On July 4, 2013 it was also admitted that every piece of mail in the USA has been photographed since the 911 Provocation/Set-Up!

    Snowden is now excoriated as a “traitor,” which has become the primary focus to try to prevent a “SNOWBALL EFFECT” with more inside people turning against the USA capitalist dictatorship and starting a mutiny mindset! A successful mutiny leading to a Socialist Revolution in the Untied States must be led by a genuine Communist Party, which itself does not yet exist. Snowden is also now “being accompanied by (at least) one of Wikileaks legal advisors ‘at all times,’” (BBC, June 26, 2013), acting for the USA “intelligence community,” in order to try to prevent Snowden from divulging ANY of his actual documents to the Russian Federation, thus demonstrating that “Wikileaks” is a total sham and has NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER of ever publishing Snowden’s actual uncensored documents Online and have so far published NONE! Snowden, by his statements and actions appears entirely different than Manning and Assange, who indeed may or may not have inspired him! Manning, though he had huge outside “help” appears to have been 100% sincerely motivated, while Assange was NOT and IS NOT! Snowden and Manning appear to have credibility from their statements and in what they did, although Manning apparently had extensive outside help. Despite the fact that both countries have betrayed him Snowden should still have provided complete copies of ALL of his documents to both the Russian Federation and the Peoples’ Republic of China but he foolishly did not!

    As the capitalists’ very own US Senators Wyden et al concur as explained above, all this spying from an “intelligence” point of view has NOT produced any "uniquely valuable intelligence” nor prevented ANY genuine terrorist attacks, but has been used primarily to covertly locate and manipulate Islamists for possible “terrorist plot” set-ups. However, the mass awareness of such huge surveillance operations which include emails, telephone calls and Internet social networking sites, etc., DOES have an enormous INTIMIDATING EFFECT on the USA, EU and world populations. Such a level of INTIMIDATION functions to hinder and block the ability to organize to oppose the economic and biological extermination programs being organized against the masses in order to reduce the “population demographic” through “Enforced Social Darwinism.” The answer is NOT to allow oneself to become intimidated and to organize and to remember that the morale of the entire capitalist dictatorship in Washington, D.C. and elsewhere is at rock bottom! Organization is easier if people are not living in fear!

    Manning, Snowden and Assange should all be critically supported despite the fact that Manning and Assange and “Wikileaks”—a USA-controlled limited hang-out operation—had enormous USA government “assistance” and the information which WAS released is all censored and manipulated except in several cases where Wikileaks determined that the cables had to be re-released uncensored otherwise they elicited no interest and revealed very little of substance in the first place. (“Who was to blame” for the uncensored cables then became an issue and the public was invited to speculate!) This is a very important distinction. Snowden should NEVER EVER turn his documents over to “Wikileaks” because then they will surely NEVER see the light of day! Wikileaks will censor or just destroy most of the documents! The information all 3 have released and actual circumstances of its release as explained here should be used to raise awareness to help reorganize a genuine Communist Party, as we had in the 1930s, and a Socialist Revolution in the USA and Worldwide. Both The Guardian and the Washington Post have covered up much of what they received from Edward J. Snowden! The Guardian has printed the gist of some of it, while the Washington Post printed virtually nothing!! If Snowden wants to get those documents published he has to do it himself and stop depending on DARPA! Snowden is an intelligent person and apparently did break with Wikileaks when Assange informed Snowden that any of his documents published on Wikileaks would also be censored!!! “Wikileaks” is an obvious sham set up to try to perpetuate the false illusion of “democracy” under the hardening capitalist dictatorship! It was revealed that Snowden had applied to 21 plus 6 countries for asylum including Russia, which said it would NOT accept Snowden unless he agreed to stop the release of “any more information which might embarrass its USA ‘partner,’” and refused even to allow him to travel to an Embassy in Moscow! Snowden then applied for “temporary asylum” in Russia to permit him to travel to an embassy of a “Latin American country” in Moscow where he could seek permanent asylum. It would be good if Russia permits Snowden to actually reach asylum in a safe country, but Russia is still playing the Gorbachev game, which has outlived its usefulness! Russia even tried to distract Snowden and the public with sex by publishing the claim that spy/ho Anna Chapman “wants to marry,” Snowden, meaning get into his pants! Ecuador, which is part of the Wikileaks SHAM, also exposed itself completely as a USA puppet, when the slimeball demagogue Correa announced it “had been a mistake to issue Snowden travel documents to travel from Hong Kong!” In other words Assange and “Wikileaks” are OK! But Snowden is NOT! They have such contempt for the masses and believe the masses and Snowden cannot put 2 and 2 together! CUBA is still a Workers’ State, which would be safer than a capitalist regime where the governments can change rapidly. Raoul Castro, however, is a hypocrite and an opportunist similar to Putin and would NEVER permit the NSA/CIA documents to be published. Only Fidel Castro might have permitted the documents to be published Online in full entirely uncensored. But for safety, if Cuba is good enough for Assata Shakur it should certainly be good enough to prevent the intended assassination by the USA dictatorship of Andrew J. Snowden! But if the USA capitalist dictatorship decides to use a drone attack with a Hellfire Missile, which it is perfectly capable of doing at a time when the Geneva Convention and International Law mean absolutely nothing, then all bets are off!

    Surveillance by Drones Expands in the USA and Worldwide!

    For purposes of INTIMIDATION almost entirely the US Congress has ordered the Federal Aviation Administration to open US airspace to unmanned aircraft (drones) by October 2015. The aerospace industry predicts there will be 30,000 drones deployed globally within five years, half of them in the United States the Associated Press news agency reported. (BBC, June 19, 2013) The USA is a hard capitalist dictatorship known as RULE BY DECREE and takes the form of a bureaucratic, military police state which is hardening by the day! The refusal by the Obama Regime to pledge never to use a drone strike to kill an American citizen on U.S. soil who is “suspected of being a terrorist,” a pledge proposed by demagogue-Fascist Rand Paul in February 22, 2013, demonstrates that there is a real possibility 1.) That the USA will indeed try to assassinate Andrew Snowden with a Hellfire Missile in ANY Latin American country which might provide him asylum even Cuba, and 2.) That the issue of NSA/CIA surveillance is being used LARGELY FOR PURPOSES OF INTIMIDATION AS THE USA Capitalist Dictatorship begins to escalate its economic war of extermination of its own people and wants the masses to acquiesce meekly to their own extermination due to fear!

    William H. Depperman, Coordinator
    United Front Against Racism
    And Capitalism-Imperialism
    New York, N.Y. 10003
    Revised July 14, 2013

    • John Brown | July 16, 2013

      Cuba is a beaureaucratic state. It is not ruled by working class folks, but by a one-party stalinist bueraucracy. Get the facts straight.

  25. Sam | July 14, 2013

    Perhaps I am too idealistic here, but I am of the opinion that Snowden stole nothing – if the NSA is a government organization, then its information is the property of the people. It would seem that the people at the NSA were the thieves: stealing the information from private phone calls and emails of citizens and passing them on to enemies of the people.

  26. Lynn | July 14, 2013

    Whistleblower. The gov't does not have the right to spy on Americans but they are doing it anyway. Snowden was showing us what they are doing but he's called a traitor. What did he get for divulging the information? Cancelled passport, cannot go home, running for his life… If he were to turn himself in, he'd never get a fair trial and he'd never see daylight again. Let's get down to the real issues and find out how he was able to get out of the bldg w/ that info and how do we stop the gov't from intruding on our lives?

  27. John Brown | July 16, 2013

    Dwight Eisenhower left for us the proper perspective to focus on: "… Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defense; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research — these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel.

    But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs — balance between the private and the public economy, balance between cost and hoped for advantage — balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable; balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual; balance between actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration. ".

    Are we in "balance"? I bet not so, for 99% of the population.

    Furthermore: "… Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

    Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. "

    No one has spoken clearer than that. The past generations did their bidding. It is time for us to ours. Liberty, progress and prosperity do not come by inheritance or divine right (despite the existence of certain 'nobility' of sorts).

    It is worth saying again.. "If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom—go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!"

  28. Brad M | July 19, 2013

    Snowden definitely was a traitor to the NSA and thus the Ameican government. However, I would say he is a needed whistle blower for the American populous. I would though, like to know more about just how he came into the info and made arrangements to leak it via certain channels. Who was getting paid, who saw the info first, how much was really leaked, what was witheld, other governments involved, etc. One thing is for sure… this is an eye opener. All this technology evolving so fast all around is a great thing in some ways, but like any tool, it can used for evil as well. Americans have a duty to see to it our government does not create a repressive surveillance state or turn key totalitarian state with this new tech stuff. Perhaps new constitutional amendments are needed to do the trick, or even a new constitution specifically for the E-tech world in addition to and respecting our present constitution.

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