By William Patalon III
Executive Editor
Money Morning/The Money Map Report
Ask investing icon Jim Rogers about the $700 billion U.S. banking bailout, and he'll tell you that it's nothing but "horrible economics."
And with good reason: Most of the major U.S. banks are already bankrupt.
"Without giving specific names, most of the significant American banks, the larger banks, are bankrupt, totally bankrupt," Rogers said in a recent teleconference at the Reuters Investment Outlook 2009 Summit. "What is outrageous economically and is outrageous morally is that normally in times like this, people who are competent and who saw it coming and who kept their powder dry go and take over the assets from the incompetent. What's happening this time is that the government is taking the assets from the competent people and giving them to the incompetent people and saying, now you can compete with the competent people. It is horrible economics."
A long-time China bull, Rogers first made a name for himself with The Quantum Fund, a hedge fund that's often described as the first real global investment fund, which he and partner George Soros founded in 1970. Over the next decade, Quantum gained 4,200%, while the Standard & Poor's 500 Index climbed about 50%.
It was after Rogers "retired" in 1980 that the investing masses first really got to see him in action. Rogers traveled the world (several times), and penned such bestsellers as "Investment Biker" and the recently released "A Bull in China." He also made some historic market calls: Rogers predicted China's meteoric growth a good decade before
it became apparent to everyone else, and he subsequently foretold of the powerful updraft in global commodities prices that's fueled a year-long bull market in the agriculture, energy and mining sectors.
Rogers' candor has made him a popular figure with individual investors, meaning his pronouncements are always closely watched. Twice last year Rogers granted exclusive interviews to Money Morning Investment Director Keith Fitz-Gerald. In one of the interviews - carried each time as two-part series in Money Morning - Rogers correctly predicted that the U.S. financial crisis was destined to get much worse before any improvement was visible.
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) analysts last week estimated that banks worldwide have incurred $850 billion of credit-related losses and write-downs since the global credit crisis began last year.
But Rogers said sound U.S. lenders remain. He said these could include banks that don't make or hold subprime mortgages, or which have high ratios of deposits to equity - "all the classic old ratios that most banks in America forgot or started ignoring because they were too old-fashioned."
Many analysts have cited the Sept. 15 bankruptcy filing by Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (OTC: LEHMQ) as a trigger for the soon-to-follow cratering of the U.S. stock market and accompanying worsening of the U.S. economy.
But Rogers called that idea "laughable," noting that banks have been failing for hundreds of years. And yet, he said policymakers aren't doing enough to prevent another Lehman.
"Governments are making mistakes," he said. "They're saying to all the banks, you don't have to tell us your situation. You can continue to use your balance sheet that is phony " All these guys are bankrupt, they're still worrying about their bonuses, they're still trying to pay their dividends, and the whole system is weakened."
[Editor's Note: Not many commentators can say that investing icon Jim Rogers granted them an exclusive interview. But Money Morning Investment Director Keith Fitz-Gerald can make that claim. Indeed, Fitz-Gerald interviewed the noted investor and author twice last year - once at Rogers' home in Singapore, and the second time at a financial conference in Vancouver. The stories that resulted were among the best read of last year in Money Morning. That says a lot about Fitz-Gerald's credibility. The ongoing financial crisis has changed the investing game forever, making uncertainty the norm and creating a whole set of new rules that will help determine who wins and who loses. Investors who ignore this "New Reality" will struggle, and will find their financial forays to be frustrating and unrewarding. But investors who embrace this change will not only survive - they will thrive.
Fitz-Gerald has already isolated these new rules and has unlocked the key to what he refers to as "The Golden Age of Wealth Creation." But he brings more than a realization - and an understanding - to the table, here. After a decade of work, he's also developed a new computerized trading model based on a mathematical concept known as "fractals." This system allows him to predict price movements of broad indexes, or individual stocks, with a high degree of certainty. And it's particularly well suited to the kind of market we're all facing right now. Check out our latest report on these new rules, and this new market environment.]
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About the Author
Before he moved into the investment-research business in 2005, William (Bill) Patalon III spent 22 years as an award-winning financial reporter, columnist, and editor. Today he is the Executive Editor and Senior Research Analyst for Money Morning at Money Map Press.
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Americans shouldn't be surprised as banks won't tell how they're using the bailout money,they're using the fund to pay bonus starting from the office messengers to the high ranking chief executives of their banks,but the bonus is it for a good job or for a bad job done at the detriment of the AMERICANS.
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I wont disagree much with Jim Rogers. Bailing out bankrupt financial institutions is bad economics. I think this is an opportunate time to look at ways to redistribute income among people. Imagine 1 million dollar employee vis-a-vis several 50,000 dollar employees. Read this http://indiabusinessdatabase.com/blog/2008/12/26/redistribution-of-income-the-way-forward/
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I suppose that Banking Bailout is a horrible mistake by US gov.
Jim's news is here.
http://jim-rogers.blogspot.com/2008/10/bailout-would-only-prolong-crisis-jim.html
It’s a quite difficult decision for any politician choosing between more bailout packages or letting the free market economic principles take care of the failed businesses, whether it is the financial institutions or automakers. The main focus should be defending the interests of middle-class Americans and creating a stable economic system that will guarantee long-term stability and sustainability. But here we also can face more challenges, since right now the Washington politicians are talking about the second large bailout package. If we bailout financial institutions and other industries again, when are they going to ask for the third bailout package? Or fourth? Maybe this is a time to let free market economy work rather than keep bailing out large, failed corporations? After all, it is the small and medium size businesses that create vast majority of middle-class jobs in America, not the large corporations. Maybe the government is better off to replace banks in lending practices and directly give loan packages with low interest rates to small and medium size businesses? That might work better and have a direct, immediate impact on economy and the middle-class America…
Simply, who will go back and audit the first $350 billion TARP funds that were given out under the Bush administration?
Can Obama do this? if so that would be great!!!
If not, this would make us all sick.
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